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TrotSkie |
Posted 28th Nov 2007 7:49pm |
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As i have previously said, I only gave out a Pure beta. Not a standalone fix. If someone can work out how its done from the Pure beta then they could have made their own anyway. |
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goober |
Posted 28th Nov 2007 8:07pm |  |
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Well... From what i understand, Pure will come with an autoupdate feature which will automatically download the latest updates... so that people can always be one step ahead of hackers 
Plus, When/If the THQ tracker goes down, An autoupdate can be made redirecting everyone to the [TwT] Backup tracker. (Thats twt.ath.cx ) |
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DVL_IAC |
Posted 28th Nov 2007 10:28pm |  |
L4Y Member Post 1202 / 1417
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Quoting TrotSkie | To stop any further complaints about me not releasing a stand alone version of the 8*** nvidia fix, I have made a small 1mb video showing what is possible with a small modification to the fix (which would be easy to do were it not burried in the Pure code).
http://rapidshare.com/files/72913390/Fix.wmv |
Watch out they could make everybody red lol... wuts the big problem with that? |
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Assman15  |
Posted 28th Nov 2007 10:35pm |  |
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Everyone is extremely noticeable. Its an advantage over other players, basically a cheat. I don't see it making a huge difference in a game like RF, but applied to some other games it could completely ruin game play. Whether or not the advantage is game breaking, a cheat is still a cheat. |
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goober |
Posted 28th Nov 2007 10:39pm |  |
L4Y Member Post 6236 / 265
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That combined with a color bot = ... death |
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DVL_IAC |
Posted 28th Nov 2007 11:09pm |  |
L4Y Member Post 1203 / 1417
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Couldn't anyone make everyone red anyway just by changing the player textures to just bright red.. and wth's a colour bot... |
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goober |
Posted 28th Nov 2007 11:29pm |  |
L4Y Member Post 6237 / 265
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Lighting would affect texture changes, throwing a color bot off.
A color bot is a cheating program (mostly used by rail clans) which finds a specific color and shoots it. |
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TrotSkie |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 12:13am |
L4Y Member Post 47 / 130
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That video shows players as (255,0,0) regardless of distance and lighting, and they change back to their normal colour on death. With that a player could easily make a colorbot which worked 100% on all maps & guns without changing any textures. Extending that further it would enable easy wallhacks, chameleon, fullbright player models/ walls, no smoke, no fog.. need i go on? |
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D2k |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 10:14am |
L4Y Member Post 1427 / 1923
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So, how does one prevent a aimbot? |
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goober |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 11:01am |  |
L4Y Member Post 6238 / 265
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Modified Nov 29th, 06:23pm by goober |
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RED-FROG |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 3:26pm |  |
L4Y Resident Post 2184 / 5258
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Quoting rebas | I highly doubt pure faction will be able to restrict players from flying server-side. |
Who cares? Let the server fly around and I'll just leave his stupid game. |
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Ghostkid |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 5:49pm |  |
Invisible Kid L4Y Member Post 1272 / 2212
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He will make a trap and.. trap you ! so you cant get out! and you will be stuck in RF forever! |
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goober |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 6:24pm |  |
L4Y Member Post 6239 / 265
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Quoting REDFROG | Quoting rebas | I highly doubt pure faction will be able to restrict players from flying server-side. |
Who cares? Let the server fly around and I'll just leave his stupid game. |
That's not it...
Frog, He's saying restrict clients from people able to fly in HIS server through HIS server only, not a clientside application.
The simple answer is... Yes.
Flying cannot currently be blocked server-side... per say. What TrotSkie can and has done however is auto-kill anyone flying in his server 
EDIT: Ok... There is one way to stop people from flying, but it's only suitable for rail servers due to some strange side-effects |
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Modified Nov 29th, 06:25pm by goober |
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Morgoth |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 7:42pm |
L4Y Member Post 151 / 393
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Quoting rebas |
I highly doubt pure faction will be able to restrict players from flying server-side.
Quoting goober |
Flying cannot currently be blocked server-side... per say. What TrotSkie can and has done however is auto-kill anyone flying in his server  |
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1- Does it mean also that LazyBan cannot block flying hack?
2- Pure Faction need both, server and client, why it cannot block theses birds?  
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goober |
Posted 29th Nov 2007 7:59pm |  |
L4Y Member Post 6241 / 265
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LazyBan isn't meant to stop modding, It's meant to make it easier to ban modders.
LazyBan shall become entirely pointless once Pure is released.
Morgoth, Pure does block flying. I'm pretty sure fully. What I'm saying is server-side ONLY it is possible to make things very difficult for modders. Client + Server makes modding near impossible if done right, which PF is. |
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