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DVL_IAC   Posted 30th Oct 2005 5:43pm
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Quoting Johnny_Suave
I'm pretty sure the whole RF 3 thing was a mistake or joke.


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Ranswer3   Posted 30th Oct 2005 5:48pm
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November 24? Most of us will forget about Red Faction by then lol. We may loose alot of RF'rs when it finally comes back on .
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NoClanFrank    Posted 30th Oct 2005 6:23pm
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We might lose all those that only play default maps, that's for sure.
You know the newer players.
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loelchen   Posted 7th Nov 2005 8:09pm
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Hi all.
That's what i wrote:

Hello Admins.

In the last days, you received some emails, containing the Question, why the Masterserver is down, and when it will be online again.
You answered it could be on November 24th. Causing to repairs or updates. (I searched for news on your Website, but could't find anything there)

I can't imagine, that this could take so long. I think, for other games THQ created, it would take some hours (perhaps days), am i right?

In my opinion, you try to 'pull the plug' from time to time, and then you see, if some Players are responding or not.

Of course i understand, that you try to cut losses. We are a small
community, not much players (about 100 i think). But we love that game.
If RF 2 have had a multiplayer, much much more people had bought it.

Red Faction lives through its community.
Please, don't end that community. In the last months, many new players
joined Red Faction (from Poland or Italy for exemple). America, England and
Germany are still represented there.

That's, what they answered:

Hello,
I'm sorry but game server is down right now for repairs. Please check back around December 1.
Thank you.
   
goober   Posted 7th Nov 2005 9:12pm
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OMFG! this is out of control, those CENCOREDS
who made that master server? that goes online in 2 hours!
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wakey1512   Posted 7th Nov 2005 11:00pm
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Ahem that answer wouldnt suprise me at the least

I assume THQ set up a program to automaticly send

'Hello, I'm sorry but game server is down right now for repairs. Please check back around December 1. Thank you.'

to anyone who emails with the word 'master server'

Ignorant SOBs
   



RED-FROG   Posted 7th Nov 2005 11:03pm
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Quoting wakey1512
Ahem that answer wouldnt suprise me at the least

I assume THQ set up a program to automaticly send

'Hello, I'm sorry but game server is down right now for repairs. Please check back around December 1. Thank you.'

to anyone who emails with the word 'master server'

Ignorant SOBs

Yeah that might be true, I would like to know how long was the delay between sending and recieveing. But Probably they've set up a random delay value in the program
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D2k   Posted 7th Nov 2005 11:06pm
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You mean THQ would go out of their way to create a mailing bot just to get us off their case? PFFFFFFFT thats asking too much from them.
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Vidi44   Posted 7th Nov 2005 11:24pm
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Quoting D2k
You mean THQ would go out of their way to create a mailing bot just to get us off their case? PFFFFFFFT thats asking too much from them.


Its still cheaper then sending Ike the Intern to manually do this, and its good pr (public relations) for them to at least respond. Basically, they've found the best way to both safe face (by answering our questions) and to still cut costs (how long would it take to make a mail bot? Probably less than a few hours depending on complexity).

I think someone should send another message, but completely avoid the words "Game Tracker" or "Master Server", and possibly even "Red Faction" (maybe use the term "Martian Communists" even though the RF isn't communist, except for the part about workers revolting). Then you could also include a link to L4Y and Redfactionview.net (although I don't know if the link would activate the probable bot, so you might want to avoid it and tell them to look around at all the affiliates). Now, if they read this, it should be fine and spiffy, if not, take the same message and hunt down the CEO's box (usually they follow the same syntax for mailing, so find an individual's name, then find the CEO's name, and use <CEO name>@thq.com or something like that. Sometimes its <firstname.lastname>, sometimes reverse, sometimes just title, etc so you'll have to do a lot of verifying, or just mass-mail to all the variations you can think of, and potentially go to jail for spamming).

If the CEO won't listen, find the RF admin, and mail him. If that doesn't work, Garner should get to work on setting up a clone of the Game Tracker and hunt down SubZero or Hermit to make a patch for it (or anyone else who wants to break the EULA and hack RF and patch it), as RF's death would be close by if all those people don't respond (as in not a bland, generic answer, but specifics, etc).
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goober   Posted 7th Nov 2005 11:36pm
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id help create a master server
but i think that everyone here at l4y RF section should email THQs CEO and tell them to get the servers online! 10 times each, thats about 1000 emails, that should over load their bot
if everyone sends them at the same time, then they will be forced to read at least one, and that ONE might just be the RF communitys savour
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RED-FROG   Posted 7th Nov 2005 11:41pm
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They wouldn't care about the EULA argreement break if they really wouldn't start the masterserver back again, would they?
At this time, they would already have given up the game and they also wouldnt care about it if some punks would hack it into small pieces

And what about the RF1.30 patch, or the spectator exe? These game modifications weren't done by permission, were they? I think only developement kits with C++ codes would officially allow this.
Just like the RFtoolkit, which allows the modding of the game.

But I don't want to sound like I was bitching about the permissions, as long as these things aren't sold for money or get done by professionals which use it as a base for their games its all ok.
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FuryThor   Posted 7th Nov 2005 11:53pm
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Quoting loelchen
Hi all.
That's what i wrote:

Hello Admins.

In the last days, you received some emails, containing the Question, why the Masterserver is down, and when it will be online again.
You answered it could be on November 24th. Causing to repairs or updates. (I searched for news on your Website, but could't find anything there)

I can't imagine, that this could take so long. I think, for other games THQ created, it would take some hours (perhaps days), am i right?

In my opinion, you try to 'pull the plug' from time to time, and then you see, if some Players are responding or not.

Of course i understand, that you try to cut losses. We are a small
community, not much players (about 100 i think). But we love that game.
If RF 2 have had a multiplayer, much much more people had bought it.

Red Faction lives through its community.
Please, don't end that community. In the last months, many new players
joined Red Faction (from Poland or Italy for exemple). America, England and
Germany are still represented there.

That's, what they answered:

Hello,
I'm sorry but game server is down right now for repairs. Please check back around December 1.
Thank you.



Aaw heck what an emails.

Aaw I think that ioclen's email was not in style it should have been. Since as I would be a little be offensed by that type email that someone who definetly does not know enough tries to tell you what to do.

I think that THQ might be repairing/updating hardware, and maybe updating master tracker software too.

I have no idea HOW master server exactly works and I am not interested to "tell" to thq howto do it.

And it is highly likely that master tracker is being run for some major update, because originally RF was released 2001 so, that time hardware is very old and I do not think that new parts are easily anymoer available, so they need to update it more or less and that takes time to make it run smoothly.

So even I am not an admin here, my recomendation is this : Calm down and wait until THQ announces that RF master tracker is repaired.

And incase THQ shutsdown RF main tracker, we make an appealement that it is put back up. (IN PROPER ENGLISH AND WITH PROPER CONTENT)
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SnipedDragon   Posted 9th Nov 2005 8:29am
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Quoting loelchen
Hi all.
That's what i wrote:

Hello Admins.

In the last days, you received some emails, containing the Question, why the Masterserver is down, and when it will be online again.
You answered it could be on November 24th. Causing to repairs or updates. (I searched for news on your Website, but could't find anything there)

I can't imagine, that this could take so long. I think, for other games THQ created, it would take some hours (perhaps days), am i right?

In my opinion, you try to 'pull the plug' from time to time, and then you see, if some Players are responding or not.

Of course i understand, that you try to cut losses. We are a small
community, not much players (about 100 i think). But we love that game.
If RF 2 have had a multiplayer, much much more people had bought it.

Red Faction lives through its community.
Please, don't end that community. In the last months, many new players
joined Red Faction (from Poland or Italy for exemple). America, England and
Germany are still represented there.

That's, what they answered:

Hello,
I'm sorry but game server is down right now for repairs. Please check back around December 1.
Thank you.


Err ... I don't know if any people here noticed this ... but I think this one is faked. After reading your email I found several grammer mistakes which foreigners often make. But the respond of THQ seems to have some 'foreign' mistakes too.

Don't worry about the foreigner crap, I'm Dutch myself.
   
mad_ferrit   Posted 9th Nov 2005 8:52am
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The alledged reply from THQ was this....

Hello,
I'm sorry but game server is down right now for repairs. Please check back around December 1.
Thank you.


I see no huge grammatical mistakes in that sentence. Perhaps it should read like this...

Hello,
I'm sorry but the game server is down right now for repairs. Please check back around December 1st.
Thank you.


OK, so it isn't the Queen's English but it was alledgedly written by an American so you can't exactly expect perfection But it doesn't look like it was written by a "foreigner" with a poor grasp of English IMO.
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Trigger   Posted 9th Nov 2005 10:42am
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Quoting ferrit
I see no huge grammatical mistakes in that sentence
ditto.

December 1 CENSORED is going on?

How about a mass email campaign until they bring the damn thing back?
If I ever get to where I am going, will I know when I am there?    Modified Nov 9th, 10:44am by Trigger
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