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| LordSeafood |
  Posted 20th Nov 2005 12:28am |  |
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LOL i have a slight understanding of that code ... and some of the variables seem to be very ambiguously named (ie Indexy, PlI) but im sure in the actual code (not the declarations as shown) that they make more sense in their naming choices. Coders only make things more difficult by not giving relevent names. |
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| goober |
Posted 20th Nov 2005 1:13am | |
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they done want inexperienced coders ripping off their products... |
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| Vidi44 |
Posted 20th Nov 2005 9:44pm |
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Sorry if this sounds disrespectful, but that code's sort of weak. Of course, that didn't sound as well-intentioned as I meant, but there's not much I can say, is there?
Try putting in whitespace into your declarations, then arrange them by type. Ex:
Dim int1 as Integer
Dim int2 As Integer
Dim str1 As string
Dim str2 as string
Dim bol1 as boolean
Dim bol2 as boolean
etc
After that's done, it'll be easier to read.
Anyway, LSF: the reason it is so strangely named is that he's primarily a C++'er, and C++ folks like C-style naming conventions. As C was designed when the name of a variable actually affected the program (today's memory is more than enough to compensate), variables like "int x" and "string abc" would be common. C++, as a derivative of C, assumed similar naming conventions because the same C programmers went to C++. As such, the names will be similarly cryptic.
VB was designed for use by non-professional programmers, so none of the cryptic variable declarations were ported over (those who know not how to do something wrong will often do it right if it is clear). Thus, a VB example would be:
Dim strPathOfFile As String
Dim intLoopControlVariable As Integer
etc
For non-programmers, this is logical naming conventions. For professionals, this is wasteful, as to ourselves we assume that our naming conventions would be readable by all. This sort of semi-elitism is what drug the programming world down until VB was invented. Slowly, professionals are going towards english-like variables that describe the purpose of it.
As I work primarily with VB, your naming conventions will be strange. Eventually, as I read more into it, I'll figure it out and attach a comment to the variable declaration (or simply rename it with Option Excplicit, which would automatically change the variable name througout the program).
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 20th Nov 2005 10:17pm | |
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I don't know what this is all about..
I seriousily want to know, WHEN will the masterserver be back online? if that ever gonna happen..
THQ is killing the game. Just wait until the new serverlist appears. 
It seems like no one gives a CENSORED . Repairs don't take that much time, never.  |
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 21st Nov 2005 12:55am | |
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Yes Vidi VB is my primary coding language (not that great though  )
The only thing i have made in it is an address book that saves and loads the peoples information and also saves and display any images already located on the HDD ... very basic stuff. |
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| SnipedDragon |
Posted 23rd Nov 2005 10:33am |
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lol,
I tried to fix up the code and make it a bit nicer, I made the declarations a bit easier to read (I never do this myself though ... only costs time ), I commented the code at important parts ... the more difficult parts contain somewhat less comments because it's hard to comment those join packages, and I fixed the code so it would be more readable, delete all kinds of weird commands with useless HEX and stuff lol.
Still ... the code is a bit messy ... I hope you understand any of it. The code is partially comparing HEX and counting packages which might be a little bit hard to understand with my strange way of working in VB.
Hmmmm ... now let's see where I can drop the RAR with the source. |
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| Vidi44 |
Posted 23rd Nov 2005 11:13pm |
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PM me with the size of the RAR, I'll give you an e-mail address. Just don't swear, as its set to reject all letters with swearing in them (and porn, etc). Sure, I could change that, but I once had a nasty hate mail after (sorry Skiprat, I know how you hate gaming terms) pwning a guy really bad in Netrek. People think I'm bad with 5 page posts? Try looking at 10 pages of swearing, threats, and noob comments like "your lag was 10 ms faster than mine, I didn't stand a chance" and "it's not fair, my hands were sweaty". |
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| goober |
Posted 23rd Nov 2005 11:17pm | |
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| Quoting Vidi44 | | PM me with the size of the RAR, I'll give you an e-mail address. Just don't swear, as its set to reject all letters with swearing in them (and porn, etc). Sure, I could change that, but I once had a nasty hate mail after (sorry Skiprat, I know how you hate gaming terms) pwning a guy really bad in Netrek. People think I'm bad with 5 page posts? Try looking at 10 pages of swearing, threats, and noob comments like "your lag was 10 ms faster than mine, I didn't stand a chance" and "it's not fair, my hands were sweaty". |
i am litterallying loling...
and sniped, whats the latest news on you getting it working ingame? |
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 23rd Nov 2005 11:32pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | Quoting Vidi44 | | PM me with the size of the RAR, I'll give you an e-mail address. Just don't swear, as its set to reject all letters with swearing in them (and porn, etc). Sure, I could change that, but I once had a nasty hate mail after (sorry Skiprat, I know how you hate gaming terms) pwning a guy really bad in Netrek. People think I'm bad with 5 page posts? Try looking at 10 pages of swearing, threats, and noob comments like "your lag was 10 ms faster than mine, I didn't stand a chance" and "it's not fair, my hands were sweaty". |
i am litterallying loling... |
LOL vidi ... ive had people swear at me in game on CS 1.6 (via voice not text) but never recieved an e-mail about it, most liekly because they dont have it and goober loling? ... you were laugh out louding  , i think lol would have done or lingol
And SD(SnipedDragon) i hope you are not rushing with this as that is how mistakes are made and if this is quite a large project one mistake may be difficult to find and (from experience) morale is dropped quite alarmingly when it seems all your work is for nothing. In this case a quick game is not a good game  |
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| SnipedDragon |
Posted 24th Nov 2005 2:08pm |
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Currently I have the RAR set up on this adress:
ftp://SnipedDragon.ath.cx/PlayerBOT.rar
Sorry for this short post, but the last huge post I typed was CENSORED up by pressing the wrong button >_< |
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| goober |
Posted 24th Nov 2005 6:32pm | |
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| Quoting SnipedDragon | | Sorry for this short post, but the last huge post I typed was Censored ed up by pressing the wrong button >_< |
i always copy my posts text before i submit, in case i get an error or something.
Garner How about a system that recovers your text if you get an error and press back. ATM it just shows you a blank screen  |
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Posted 24th Nov 2005 8:56pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | Garner How about a system that recovers your text if you get an error and press back. ATM it just shows you a blank screen |
I'm not Garner but here goes:
Download Opera Web Browser
IE doesn't do that but that browser will. I have it installed but I hardly ever do it. I still don't see how safe it could be if it keeps track of what you typed in the box. But they (whoever they are) say that it is safer than IE from Microsoft. |
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| goober |
Posted 24th Nov 2005 10:49pm | |
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nah, i cant sand Opera, or Netscape for that matter. the oinly browsers i ever use are IE and firefox, most time though, IE is used by me.. |
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| Vidi44 |
Posted 25th Nov 2005 2:59am |
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Your link won't work with the browser I'm using. I tried both your standard "lets click the link", and FireFTP (Firefox's built-in FTP program. Its a bit spotty, but better than a lot of other FTP programs I've seen (might be my dialup, but she drops a lot of connections, mainly with L4Y though, so it may be the instability of L4Y's server)).
Don't rush it, do your best work. I don't rush for people, and I don't expect them to rush for me. People work best at their own pace, so if I told you to rush, you'd either fill it with "features" or accidentally leave them in. You have approximately 70 years to finish it (according to an online fitness test/life expectancy test, I'll die somewhere in my mid to late 80s provided I don't suddenly start indulging in McDonalds and drinking pure lard ("hmmm... lard.... <salivates>" -Homer Simpson).
As for the person writing that "nice" e-mail, they got it from before when I wrote my e-mail address to someone I invited to join my clan (the game has scrolling chat, unlike RF's where you can't scroll back). Despite that fiasco, I continue to list my e-mail address simply because it is more reliable than forums (e-mail has blocks to stop their messages, forums have IP blocks, but is too complicated for quick adjustments (e-mail: click "block". Forum: go to admin functions, find person's name, find IP address, block and hope they aren't on dialup. Only works if they registered. If guest, you risk blocking innocent people as you'd need to use an IP range block (at least on forums I've used)).
Lastly, Firefox PWNS!!!!! . That was our latest public service announcment. Our next one will be on how IE anti-pwns (nice way of putting it). As far as Opera, its worthy of your IE alternatives. Actually, even just TELNETing to a page would be better than IE, at least it won't crash I haven't used Opera, so I won't write more on it. Its supposedly good, but I've heard it lacks the number of extensions FF has and you have to put up with ads (the next version is supposed to change the ads situation). |
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| L4Y |
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