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| Hapa Hanu |
  Posted 28th Oct 2007 3:58am |
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| Quoting digital_ruler | | Quoting Hapa Hanu | Well, unfortunately TrotSkie doesn't have a Mac to do research on at this time. Not sure if I want to ship him one of my precious babies either. Besides the incompatible voltage between our countries. 
BTW, Morgoth there is a command line for the Mac version of RF on it's initial start up, a launcher window of sorts.
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DATARATE?!?!? 
That's quite high. Set it to roughly 20000. That's where i keep mine for a client. |
I put that in there as a red herring - just to see if anyone is paying attention.
Honestly, it seems that an increased data rate is necessary on a server for additional players. Don't know how or why but without the overhead, d/c will occur. I am unsure if data rate player side does anything incidently. |
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| Morgoth |
Posted 29th Oct 2007 6:23pm |
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| Quoting digital_ruler |
@RedFrog,
"Is it possible for me to host even more people? With a lower rate maybe?"
No. Lowering the datarate will not help you in this case. |
1- You are sure? ...can you give more specific info about that. If server send smaller packet for everyone (15000 instead of 30000), the connection should handle few more players no? 
2- What datarate you put for a LAN?
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| TrotSkie |
Posted 29th Oct 2007 7:12pm |
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I experimented with lowerering the server framerate, and you can host more people with significantly less bandwidth (lower rate). However, the performance decrease makes it not really worth it. |
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Modified Oct 29th, 07:13pm by TrotSkie |
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| TrotSkie |
Posted 30th Oct 2007 2:19pm |
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Does the 8500 issue look the same as the 8600 and 8800 issue? If so i'm 99% sure it will fix it. |
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| Morgoth |
Posted 30th Oct 2007 3:29pm |
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I paste some question from A Request Topic because is more appropriate to Pure Faction and the topic start to be a bit spammy
| Quoting TrotSkie |
1- I'm going to introduce a temporary ban system (probably not for the first version).
2- If someone is spamming requests they will be put onto the list.
3- But for now, just ban the idiot  |
1- Finally, Pure Faction is another rf.exe that client will also need to download like LazyBan or an external application like RFSA? Two, does it will include similar feature, like the anti-crash fix, green team removed...?
2- We need the safe gamemode switch feature 
| Quoting Morgoth |
GoOd to hear that is not a time consuming feature to add  I think it will give more flexibility to server to follow the need of players more professionally without kick them out to change what they want to play. |
3- No pity for cheater 
| Quoting digital_ruler |
It should be noted here that TrotSkie is talking about the FRAMERATE, not the DATARATE. |
I notice it, but he probably though about datarate when writing, because I don't think RF own this cmd and framerate should decrease by doing that anyway...
At same time, thanks to share constructive reply digital_ruler about hosting,
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Modified Oct 30th, 03:32pm by Morgoth |
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| TrotSkie |
Posted 31st Oct 2007 7:21pm |
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nvidia fix tested on 8800GT - successful. |
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| Morgoth |
Posted 31st Oct 2007 8:37pm |
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TrotSkie, can you response to this plz...
| Quoting Morgoth |
1- Finally, Pure Faction is another rf.exe that client will also need to download like LazyBan or an external application like RFSA?
2- Does it will include similar feature, like the anti-crash fix, green team removed...? |
Thanks,
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| TrotSkie |
Posted 1st Nov 2007 9:22pm |
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If it looks very similar to the first screens it will most likely fix it. |
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| Morgoth |
Posted 1st Nov 2007 11:36pm |
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After 2 time, I don't know if is wanted or not for some unknown reason TrotSkie, but can you response to this plz? 
| Quoting Morgoth |
1- Finally, Pure Faction is another rf.exe that client will also need to download like LazyBan or an external application like RFSA?
2- Does it will include similar feature, like the anti-crash fix, green team removed...? |
Thanks,
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| TrotSkie |
Posted 2nd Nov 2007 12:43am |
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I forgot to respond Morgoth  . Pure will require clients to download a new client application. However, it is not like 1.3 as Pure servers will be seen by everyone running a RF1.2. When a player who is not running Pure Faction joins, they will not be allowed to spawn, and will recieve a message telling them what pure is, and where to get it. All the things fixed by subz are included, along with many many more crash fixes. |
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| Morgoth |
Posted 2nd Nov 2007 4:53pm |
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No problem, "... CENSORED happen" - Forest Gump
Nice! GoOd jOb
1- Pure Faction will also be compatible with Dual Core by default or will have another distinctive file?
2- Did you do a quick look for the safe gamemode switch feature?
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 2nd Nov 2007 5:42pm |  |
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| Quoting TrotSkie | | nvidia fix tested on 8800GT - successful. |
Stupid question, maybe, but what about the 8800GTS? Will this be a different task or are 8800's similar? |
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| TrotSkie |
Posted 2nd Nov 2007 5:52pm |
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All 8800/8600 should be the same. BTW, if you're considering buying an 8800GTS - don't, buy 8800GT.
Morgoth:
Why would you need a separate file to run in dual core? There are patches on google which fix it for everything:
AMD Dual-Core Optimizer:
(http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html)
I don't quite know what you mean by a safe mode. |
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Modified Nov 2nd, 05:56pm by TrotSkie |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 2nd Nov 2007 6:12pm | |
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But GTS is faster than GT
Perhaps I'll buy a new PC, got one in sight but it's got a 8800 GTS and it's not configurable in that shop.
I've read news about the GTS before. They said nvidia was about to tweak the GTS because of the new GT (larger memory model) being faster.
Well probably the GT is cheaper than a GTS but yeah..I can't change it |
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| Morgoth |
Posted 2nd Nov 2007 7:08pm |
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| Quoting TrotSkie |
1- Why would you need a separate file to run in dual core?
2- I don't quite know what you mean by a safe mode. |
1- No, I don't need this, single file is perfect! I just see LazyBan Dual Core patch... To be more effective and user friendly, Xmod Installer give also the Anti-Cheat, shortcut and cmd mod. I why am interessed to how your file works...
2- Oh, is just a way to talk about the feature to alternate gamemode without restart the server. Because this way is more player care, they are not kick from server just to change gamemode...
| Quoting Morgoth |
I think it will give more flexibility to server to follow the need of players more professionally without kick them out to change what they want to play. |
For my side, I really would like to have this feature in first release to carefully follow the need of players in Xmod 1.1 match event by alternate DM, TDM, CTF, Flag Assault, CS enable and Combat Suit - Survive & Protect mode... But I can understand your choice if you doesn't think is a must feature. I mostly want that you will do it one day!
I hope, I hope
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