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| Max Payne 2 : Max Payne 2 Modding : Vengance mod for mp2 |
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| daudnatania |
  Posted 18th Feb 2006 4:03pm |
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 Calibur, Jamie...don't worry. The community accepts vengeance. I've quite surprise to find the number of the downloads. I think it will be increasing in a very short time. Lets not worry about those persons who don't like vengeance. If they don't want to see vengeance and modify the code, it is their choices. But I say, it is quite a loss. Still, the community is the winner. This MOD is for the community. It is a wish that all community will be inspired to build MOD for Max Payne 2. Not just a usual MOD, but an extraordinary MOD.
I have a wish that Kenneth Young can join again and makes a Kungfu MOD for Max Payne 2. His idea is extraordinary. And his idea had revolutionary changed our perspective of the limitation of Max Payne's engine.
Ok now. Let's back to the topic. Is there any problem when you try to download from http://www.megaupload.com/?d=DZISOVTS ? If you experience trouble, please inform me. |
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| Curwen |
Posted 18th Feb 2006 4:41pm |
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| Quoting jami3 | | Quoting Calibur | | Blah!Blah! |
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Come on guys, do you think you'd appreciate to see your work re-used before anybody had the chance to play the original one, by someone who's fakely willing to help the community ? Would you go : "Hey fine, I'm really inspired by what you've done with our stolen content ! I'm so entousiastic, this is for sure a new rise of the community!" ? I seriously don't think so, and you wouldn't be using your ability to argue against the same people then.
I don't see how possibly stealing content from peers modders can help the community, I don't see how a mod can be extraordinary if this is just a ripoff from some other mods, I don't see why anybody could think any "free" work should be less valuable than any copyrighted thing. Your example with the pieces of codes being used by anybody else can't apply to this case, because the authors of the code/SDK has released it BEFORE people start to use it. In our case, the source is being uploaded as we speak, still the prog. using parts of the code is already being spread around without even a credit to the original authors.
Yeah, we do this for free, and this is exaclty why we don't like to see it stolen/ripped. A paid developper doesn't really care about this because he has been paid, we haven't and our work is only rewarded by player's appreciation. Seeing it used by a black sheep from the community than you have been in for 4 years is really making us all sick. Seeing him being proud of it is a cherry on the cake.
But well, as you pointed it, I have nothing to gain arguing with guys like you. Deny everything I said, smile, play with words, I don't care. I've heard enough about robbers sueing the owner of the house they broke in because they have cut themselves with the knifes in the kitchen. This is just a sick world and some of you guys are the best example of it.
We learned the lesson, and we hope not to be in the same case ever again. Thanks everybody for making it all possible. I'll follow Rico's example : do, say, steal what you want, this is my last post about this stealing case. |
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| Calibur |
Posted 18th Feb 2006 5:03pm |
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| Quoting Curwen | | This is just a sick world and some of you guys are the best example of it. |
Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini, Hussein, Bush.
Watch your ****ing mouth. I don't think anyone here is worthy of that list.
Then again mod stealing is the root of all evil in the world.
*WATCH OUT!!!! SARCASM!!!!!!* 
On a more serious note, yes daud might have wanted to wait a little while. But it is hardly going to overshadow other mods. With HoM you are getting all the genius of level designer corwin, EQ chracter skins, weapons and the general spit and polish of the team. Rico said he even got job offers from this and you guys had a great time. So quit complaining. |
"I'm the guy who's gonna break your knees if you don't tell me what I need to know."
Best. Threat. Ever. |
Modified Feb 18th, 05:16pm by Calibur |
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| daudnatania |
Posted 18th Feb 2006 5:34pm |
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| Quoting Curwen | | Quoting jami3 | | Quoting Calibur | | Blah!Blah! |
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Blah!Blah! |
Well, one for sure, MOD can be unpack and we can use the content. So it is just a matter of time of using your animations. The difference that vengeance made is that the motor of the MOD making is rolling again. So why complains anyway? When you launch your MOD, we will see another different combat system. Vengeance uses only the basic of Gun Katas combat system. Safe your complain and mind your own business. The word stealing is not available in MOD world. I think you have gone all way wrong. Free is different from copyrighted. Free is free. So it is FREE for sharing. If you just jealous because some of the animation are going out first, just say so. Just say that you are jealous because we find another way to tweak Gun KAtas. Just say that you are jealous because we find and develop a new concept of Gun Katas. Or even better. Just say that you are late in launching your MOD.
Anyway... if people are agree with your opinion, how come so many people start to download it? And you know what, the number is increasing until now. And they have to read the thread if they want to find the link. This means that mostly who download this mod is actually the member of the community. This means that the community like it and download it. If the community agree with your idealism, there will be less people who download it. The fact is.... they download it. And they like it. And they free to use any content from that MOD. So, you're complaining for nothing.
Fake to help the community? It is the community who decide and look at it. Not you. I help the community as far as I can. When a matter occurs and I can't find the answer, I even refer them to the one who can. Let the community be the judge. Not an individual or just a team. And if you ask me "do you think you'd appreciate to see your work re-used before anybody had the chance to play the original one", I'll say : If the other can be better and can develop a better MOD, I will gladly to give. You want a proof? When I finish my first animation, I will actually going to upload the animation file to L4Y. When I say I share with the community, it means I share. |
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Modified Feb 18th, 05:42pm by daudnatania |
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| jami3 |
Posted 18th Feb 2006 7:05pm |
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I think people don't realise how fickle the community is, people just want to take mods and make their games better they don't really care about the modmakers (unless they helped wiv the mod) they are getting an extra element added to there game and naturally they are grateful but I think some people are taking the mod making thing out of context, I understand why the HoM people would be annoyed with assets from their mod being taken but these assets are providing owners of the game with fun and surely that is the whole point of making a mod. |
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| MAXPAYNE4664 |
Posted 18th Feb 2006 8:38pm |  |
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So i guess the future of Max Payne 2 mod making....all mods will have gun-kata...thanks to the Veangeance mod. First it was Cinema, now EQ. We want some new ideas, not the same old formula again....
And isnt this veangeance mod basically the leaked EQ gunkata mod? Sry I'm just not reading the Max Payne 2 threads that much ever since daudnatania posted stuff about his mod on things that were literaly off-topic. Make a new topic CENSORED
I want to learn how to make new ideas such as a zombie mod. I dont want to make a mod where everyone is also making the same concept.  |
| 60% of the time, it works every time - Brian Fantana |
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| JD_Method |
Posted 18th Feb 2006 9:36pm |
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I feel the same way. Gun Kata is getting a bit boring. We'll just have to wait for some new Froz stuff. His mods are good and original. If only I was better at modding  I've just started to make my own levels. I can't add in my own weapons yet though. Oh well. Maybe some day I'll know how to do all the good stuff. |
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| JimmyCognitti |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 12:09am | |
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Yeah!! a Zombie mod for Max Payne 2 sounds great!! Who wants to start it?? I could make some cool skins, you know.... 
BTW, I began to "mess around" with "vengeance mod"  I fixed the bullet-time problem and I also added Zildet's "Arena map", this is the result LoL:
Anyways, daudna....(whatever  ) is kinda right, this vengeance mod might give other people some ideas, that's all.
Notice that I did this just for my self (just for fun).
I'm not planning to release it nor am I planning to steal anyone's work !!!!
Respect!! |
| Hey, catch me later, I'll buy you a beer. |
Modified Feb 19th, 05:27am by JimmyCognitti |
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| MAXPAYNE4664 |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 8:20am | |
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Man i wanna learn how to so that....you know...get a mod and put it in another mod. I want to combine CtT and the Lobby Scene together but I dont know how. |
| 60% of the time, it works every time - Brian Fantana |
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| daudnatania |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 8:27am |
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| Quoting MAXPAYNE4664 | | Man i wanna learn how to so that....you know...get a mod and put it in another mod. I want to combine CtT and the Lobby Scene together but I dont know how. |
If you want to, you just have to look how to put the lobby scene into a MOD. I haven't tried that since I'm exciting with the combat system than the level. If you still unclear, why don't you look at a MOD that has a customized level in it? You might want to look at globalconfig.txt for the menu configuration. |
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| JimmyCognitti |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 9:46am | |
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| Quoting MAXPAYNE4664 | | I want to combine CtT and the Lobby Scene together but I dont know how. |
You mean something like this?? :
All you need is a text editor and RASMaster2 
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| Hey, catch me later, I'll buy you a beer. |
Modified Feb 19th, 09:52am by JimmyCognitti |
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| Aksel3 |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 3:29pm |
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Wicked... |
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| MAXPAYNE4664 |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 9:39pm | |
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EXACTLY!!!
I remember that pic from a while ago...
Anyways how do i use Rasmaster again? |
| 60% of the time, it works every time - Brian Fantana |
Modified Feb 19th, 09:40pm by MAXPAYNE4664 |
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| lance4 |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 9:58pm |
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[quote=JimmyCognitti] Yeah!! a Zombie mod for Max Payne 2 sounds great!! Who wants to start it?? I could make some cool skins, you know....
LoL:
Just wait for the new Blood Will tell media release |
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| walter93 |
Posted 19th Feb 2006 11:16pm |
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| Quoting JimmyCognitti | | Quoting MAXPAYNE4664 | | I want to combine CtT and the Lobby Scene together but I dont know how. |
You mean something like this?? :
All you need is a text editor and RASMaster2
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thats f-ing sweet. yo upload that for sure jimmy |
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