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eh.... The thing is, you won't really notice a "speed boost" running on an Athlon due to limitations. If you had an Opty 165 or Opty 170 you may be able to go far enough to see a difference, but not on what you are running IMO.
And Nitro, I will have to try and find it, but I believe that it was another test done by Brollocks, compared was a X58 chipset Gigabyte board with Core i7 vs P45(or X board, I forget) with Q9650 and the 4GB DDR2 scored faster in Everest than the 4GB of DDR3....
If only we all could purchase the newest things the time they come out just to "test" <.< |
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| SWAMadcat |
Posted 18th Feb 2009 4:43pm |
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I have a bit more off topic question. I read that xp only supports 4 g of memory. I also read that this also include 's the video memory as part of the count. SO if i put 4 g of memory in my computer and have 1 g of video memory on my video card,will only 3g show up as available memory? Instead of 4 |
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That's false information. Memory on graphics card has nothing to do with the memory on the mainboard.
Actually XP only supports 3GB. It accepts 4GB but doesn't take any use of it. (3,xxGB is max for a 32bit system)
I think I read somewhere that even with 3GB you won't benefit that much since one GB will only be dedicated for some phsical adress or something. (forgot what it was called)
Graphic cards, sound cards, physics cards, etc all have their own dedicated memory to perform and store data locally. |
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Posted 18th Feb 2009 9:39pm |
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Physical Address Extension (PAE) enables x86 processors to access up to 64 GB of physical memory and x64 processors to access up to 1024 GB of physical memory.
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Posted 18th Feb 2009 9:42pm |
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Yea, 3.5GB is the limitation of XP 32-bit. |
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Posted 18th Feb 2009 10:52pm |
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| Quoting sobe | | Yea, 3.5GB is the limitation of XP 32-bit. |
absolutely correct.  2^ 32 =4294967296 Bytes of physical addressing. Some of this addressing is occupied by others memories and addresses, IRQ's etc.. so only leaving about 3.5 gig of RAM visible to the os. 2^64 on the other hand =18446744073709551616 Bytes. So yeah a lot more for 64bit os. |
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Posted 18th Feb 2009 11:18pm |
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Ah ok. I guess i'll stick with 2g of memory for now . I can always add more later if windows 7 works out to be better than vista. |
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You guys do realize it had an Open Beta testing phase that is still active until August right 
So far I like it though. Definitely worth getting IMO. |
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Posted 19th Feb 2009 1:44am |
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Its a free download but it does expire. I downloaded it but never have gotten around to installing it |
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I tried it for about half a month or so. It's very nice, my ONLY, and I mean ONLY gripe with it right now is the issue with running virtual drives which errors out when trying to complete the Alcohol 120% install.
I lot of my stuff is ripped to an external hard drive so I can have it as digital content vs. the need for CDs/DVDs. Thus something like an ISO emulator is needed. |
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Posted 19th Feb 2009 4:07am |
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| Quoting REDFROG | That's false information. Memory on graphics card has nothing to do with the memory on the mainboard.
Actually XP only supports 3GB. It accepts 4GB but doesn't take any use of it. (3,xxGB is max for a 32bit system)
I think I read somewhere that even with 3GB you won't benefit that much since one GB will only be dedicated for some phsical adress or something. (forgot what it was called)
Graphic cards, sound cards, physics cards, etc all have their own dedicated memory to perform and store data locally. |
HMMMMM, this is something that came up a couple months ago and some information was sent my way. I'm still not sure about this but according to some pretty reliable sources (tomshardware for example) video memory is still addressed in the OS and DOES count as total ram. I am not saying that I'm sure of this, I'm just saying that before you jump in and say definitely not, make sure to do some research on this as people who are even smarter then me say it is so
Oh, and 3.5ishG is the max for XP 32, Vista 32 SP1 recognizes 4G no problem |
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| Quoting Nitro | | Oh, and 3.5ishG is the max for XP 32, Vista 32 SP1 recognizes 4G no problem |
What about with ServicePack 3?  |
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Posted 19th Feb 2009 5:45am |
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I'm pretty positive it's the same... It's still on the same kernel.
Don't quote me on that, SP3 caused so many issues for many people with upgrading so I never tried installing when I still had XP installed on non-Virtual HD.(On virtual fresh installation of XP w/SP3 slipstreamed it installed fine) |
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Posted 13th Mar 2009 7:11pm |
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Winxp 32 bit sp1, sp2 or sp3 recognizes a max of 4 gigs of RAM and that includes RAM on your video card. I have 2 computers with 4 gigs of ram on each and one has 768 megs of video card RAM and windows only recognizes 3.25 gigs of the 4 gig mainboard RAM because it is counting the ram on my video card.
The other computer has 256 megs of video RAM and windows shows that computer as having 3.75 gigs of RAM because it is counting the 256 megs that the video card has. |
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