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| Nitro |
  Posted 25th May 2005 4:22am |
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How many times have I asked people to talk to me before you buy computer parts  First of all, thats an old ATA drive and not one of the new SATA drives that will be more and more common. Also, it's WAY overpriced, here is a 200G ATA drive right down at your corner Office Max for $74.88. Office Max Of course thats after rebate, but I love rebates, some people don't. Anyway, I'm Mr. Negativity again, sorry.  |
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| TNTDeusEx |
Posted 25th May 2005 3:35pm |
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I was told for me only ATA100 or ATA133 will work "safely" or "for sure" so that's what I went with
and I have had VERY BAD luck with Maxtor/Western Digital
1 40gb Maxtor didn't last a year, and I went through 2 more 80GB Western Digitals in last 2 years
I was told Seagate is pretty good, so it shouldn't be that bad, I'm not really after alot of space either, even 80gb would have been fine for me
Garner, yeah, the searching for the hole is a good one  I'll do that
why do people get 2 video cards though? that's like putting a dual exhaust on a car that has single exhaust stock ... unless its fairly powerfull, won't see much gain, eh?
and also, anyone is already using PCI express on here? opinions? what would be a good mobo/card/cpu combination? |
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Posted 25th May 2005 4:03pm |
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A good mobo is ABIT Fatal1ty, with a AMD Athlon 64 3200+ and a GeForce 6800 Ultra |
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| Nitro |
Posted 25th May 2005 6:18pm |
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Yup, that sure is a good one Lace
Deus, I didn't know you were partial to Seagate, but I could list plenty of those too
Actually, it sounds to me like there are other things going on, having that many drive failures makes you sound a little bit like Garner Also, if we are going back to fixing your old computer, then sure, you probably don't have SATA. But if we are talking about upgrading to a new one, then I would recommend putting the money into a SATA drive. If nothing else, it's nice to get rid of those monsterous ribbon cables. |
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| Lace |
Posted 25th May 2005 6:20pm |
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Hey, both Deus and I go for the best in cars, so why not in computerparts? |
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| xtremeclan |
Posted 25th May 2005 7:22pm |
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Ofcourse you have to go for Sata now, The majority of Desktop Motherboards support Sata and considering Sata II is now available you wouldn't want anything below Sata, servers use the very expensive SCSI HDs, they are the most reliable, made to work 24/7 and they are extremely fast, they are usually 10,000-15,000 RPM and can work very quickly and efficiently, but the price tag is on fire.
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Posted 25th May 2005 8:12pm |
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SCSI HDDs ARE fast. It is what I am using for my server pc. You could go with SCSI as long as your mobo supports it. That would be your best bet if you could find one cheap or so. |
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| Lace |
Posted 25th May 2005 8:17pm |
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I am really happy with my WD Raptor. It works 24/7, is reliable and almost as fast as a SCSI but for a far better price. |
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| TNTDeusEx |
Posted 25th May 2005 8:32pm |
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keep in mind that the HP and Gateway are both PC's from 2003
and as for Hard drives, I have no idea, I bet its just the cheap stuff they use to cut their cost
I'll probably end up using the case from HP, and stufff it with alot of other things
I've also bought stuff from newegg before, they are good to deal with, from them that mobo is $185 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813127196 which is a tad expensive compared to the rest, but easily doable |
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| Nitro |
Posted 25th May 2005 11:54pm |
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You will need to start with a new case and at least a 500 watt power supply to build something like that Deus HP's and Gateways (Dell and everyone else for that matter) use costom parts that make it nearly impossible tho upgrade anything but ram and hard drives.
The Fatality is a very high end motherboard with SLI, if you don't know why anyone would use 2 video cards, then this is not the mobo for you. There are plenty in the low $100 range that would be perfect. Anyway, this topic is getting carried away fromt he original intent. Talking about outrageous motherboards and the newest technology. It would be really easy to spend $1500 building a comp like that if you wanted to. |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 26th May 2005 1:34am |  |
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When i built my new PC i got a Athlon 64
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but i didn't get a motherboard that allows a PCI card so i didn't have to spend money on my card (my regret). If I were you I would higher end Nvidia video card with PCI
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| TNTDeusEx |
Posted 26th May 2005 1:35am |
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well I found a solution for my hard drive problem
I had one of the other old maxtors that has been laying around for about 3 years now
its ata133, and only 40gb - 29 available
so I'll use that for the HP
nitro, or Lace, or whoever else, my AIM is constantboom, if you have a free time, log on if you see me and we'll chat, I'm seriously thinking about making a comp just for gaming this time
as for this, I canceled my order of new h/d - since I don't really need it anymore, but I might get a little more RAM, like another 512 stick so I have a full GB of ram and call it a day for the HP
Gateway is for my sister mostly, I dont see how she will ever need 160gb of space since she is only 10  |
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| xtremeclan |
Posted 26th May 2005 3:12pm |
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| Quoting nitro | You will need to start with a new case and at least a 500 watt power supply to build something like that Deus HP's and Gateways (Dell and everyone else for that matter) use costom parts that make it nearly impossible tho upgrade anything but ram and hard drives.
The Fatality is a very high end motherboard with SLI, if you don't know why anyone would use 2 video cards, then this is not the mobo for you. There are plenty in the low $100 range that would be perfect. Anyway, this topic is getting carried away fromt he original intent. Talking about outrageous motherboards and the newest technology. It would be really easy to spend $1500 building a comp like that if you wanted to. |
That is crap the Fatal1ty is not a 'high-end' motherboard, it is overrated, the best AMD motherboards are made by DFI and the power supply, jesus you have no idea, the important thing is that you have a sufficient amount of Amps on the 12v Rail, you need atleast 30 for a stable PC, please don't go buying a cheapo 500+Watt PSU, I suggest the OCZ Powerstream 520W, it supports my S939 Rig (Overclocked to 3 gigz) and an X850XT perfectly and the cables come wrapped so they aren't hanging all over the place, it also has a clearly labled cords such as SATA, Video Card etc.
It is also supporting my 2x 160GIG Sata Hitachi Deskstars in Raid 0.
And Assaultman67, please tell me you got a S939 Processor+Motherboard not S754?
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If you are looking for a good PSU (Power Supply) Read this
http://forums.extremeoverclocking.com/showthread.php?t=136602 |
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| Lace |
Posted 26th May 2005 4:34pm |
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xtremeclan, maybe you should calm down a little and realise there are people at this site who have built gamingcomputers for years and that you are not THE compguru. |
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| ExoStatic |
Posted 26th May 2005 5:01pm |
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Guys, guys. Stop arguing about who is the best at computer knowledge
It's not exactly a GOOD thing if you know tons about computers... it just means you dont have a life..  |
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