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| Red Faction : Lounge : nvidia gforce 8800 gts hall o' mirrors |
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| muggins |
  Posted 26th May 2007 4:03am |
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well i appreciate all the advice but heres the deal. i have a g-force 8800 running direct x 9.0c. i have the newest diver for my card from invidea website. the game looks normal even once i join a server. i can see the score and the map in the background but as soon as i click the fire button to join i get the hall of mirrors effect. now red faction is the only program giving me problems. i love the game and would hate to loose out. any further advice would be welcome......Muggins  |
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| birda40 |
Posted 19th Jun 2007 1:25am |
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Bumping this topic......
Has anyone had any luck getting RF to run with these cards? I have 8800 GTS 640.
Works untill joining. I've pmed nvidia, their support is actually trying to help. Here is the link so everyone may express their thoughts and problems. Please do so.....never know it may help.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/support_readme.html?
Cmon everyone lets let them know we still wanna play RF.
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Modified Jun 19th, 04:09am by Hapa Hanu |
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| Hapa Hanu |
Posted 19th Jun 2007 4:13am |
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:: crosses fingers ::
That would be mighty wonderful if Nvidia could help.
BTW, I shortened up the http address and made it a link in the previous two posts. It was warping the manner in which this board is displayed. |
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| birda40 |
Posted 19th Jun 2007 11:15pm |
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This is the results so far my friends....mabey some of you brainiacs can thin of something...
Subject: I play Red faction, I have had this problem since I installed the 8800. The g...
Product: Graphics cards
Category: Troubleshooting
Choose OS: Microsoft Vista
Submitted: 06/17/2007 01:28 PM
Last Updated: 06/19/2007 08:53 AM
Status: Researching
Product Name
8800 GTS 640 mb
Driver Version
158.24
Discussion Thread
Customer (clark burkhart) 06/18/2007 06:53 PM
Ok the video stability test has ran for an hour. Plus I surfed with at least 10 open windows... watched some videos on u tube. I'm impressed  Now what
Response (MZ) 06/18/2007 05:02 PM
Hi Clark,
Please visit the given link and run the mentioned software in order to test the graphics card.
http://www.sharewareconnection.com/video-card-stability-test.htm
Please note that if your system crashes and freezes while running this software, then the graphics card has some problems. It might be defective. So, you might have to look for different graphics card for your system.
Please get in touch with us, if you need further assistance.
Best Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care.
Customer (clark burkhart) 06/18/2007 04:55 PM
Ok I tried 158.18 same results in game play. Still garbled and levels all mixed. I've tried all the nw releases since april to no avail. If you would like I would love to send you a copy of RF. It is an old game but actually pretty good. I've read some posts where others are having the same problem.levels4u.com (L4Y Red Faction)
Response (MZ) 06/18/2007 11:20 AM
Hi Clark,
I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused.
I request you to try with the driver version 158.18 and please let me know if your issue has been resolved.
Please visit the link below to download the driver:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_158.18.html
Please get in touch with us, if you need further assistance.
Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care.
Customer (clark burkhart) 06/17/2007 06:23 PM
Ok , I uninstalled in safe mod. I tried the 64 bit and 32 bit x86.
The 64 bit wouldn't install due to different O/S.
This is the message for the x86 (32)
The Nvidia setup program could not locate any drivers that are compatable with your current hardware. setup will exit.
I am not running sli and also am running a quad 6600 with 4 gig of OCZ 8500.
Response (MZ) 06/17/2007 05:28 PM
Hi Clark,
I apologize for the inconvenience this may have caused.
I suggest you to try installing this driver in safe mode and please let me know if your issue has been resolved.
Please visit the link below to download the driver if you are running Vista 32 bit OS.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_160.02.html
Please visit the link below to download the driver if you are running Vista 64 bit OS.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_160.02.html
Please get in touch with us, if you need further assistance.
Best Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care.
Response (MZ) 06/17/2007 05:26 PM
Hi Clark,
I suggest you to please
Please visit the link below to download the driver if you are running Vista 32 bit OS.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_160.02.html
Please visit the link below to download the driver if you are running Vista 64 bit OS.
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x64_160.02.html
Please get in touch with us, if you need further assistance.
Best Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care.
Customer (clark burkhart) 06/17/2007 03:07 PM
I tried to install Forceware 160.02.
They refused to install, saying that Its the wrong O/S. I reinstalled 158.
Still garbled in RF
Response (MZ) 06/17/2007 01:54 PM
Hello Clark,
Thank you for contacting NVIDIA Customer Care.
I understand from your email, that you are having issues playing Red faction game using GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card.
In order to troubleshoot the issue you are facing, I suggest you to download and install 160.02 drivers for your graphics card. For clean installation of new drivers, Please uninstall the existing graphics drivers * (check the below mentioned steps) for GeForce 8800 GTS graphics card. Download the Forceware 160.02 version of drivers from our website and disable onboard graphics adapter if any.
Please follow the steps mentioned below to download Forceware 160.02 versions for the GeForce 8800 GTS
Please visit the link below to download the driver:
http://www.nvidia.com/object/winvista_x86_160.02.html
On the following page, click on the "Primary Download Site" URL to download the driver. To avoid download issues, if you are running any 3rd party download utilities, please disable them as they are known for occasionally causing errors with the downloads.
Once you download the file, Please perform the below mentioned steps to uninstall the drivers currently installed on your PC,
1. Click on the Start button.
2. Right click on Computer and select Properties.
3. Under Tasks, Click Device Manager.
4. On the Device Manager Window click on the (+) sign next to Display Adapters.
5. Double click on the Graphics Card Option.
6. On the Graphics Properties Page, select driver and click on Uninstall to uninstall the Graphics Drivers.
Please feel free to contact us, if you have any further questions.
Best Regards,
NVIDIA Customer Care.
Customer (clark burkhart) 06/17/2007 01:28 PM
I play Red faction, I have had this problem since I installed the 8800. The game is all broken and garbled. There must have been a miscommunication, my problem was never solved. Please help.
Although all my other problems were fixed and I thank you all, RF is still broke (cries).
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OutlawSkot33  |
Posted 20th Jun 2007 3:50am |
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8800 GTS 640mb is a costly little (big card really) bugger isnt it.
Even though I dont play RF, I'll be checking this topic since Im about to start using the same vid card. A solution im thinking is doing what NoClandFrank mentioned on page one regarding an older version of I guess the game. Also, what brand is the card? For example, the one I have is from EVGA. |
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| hA Warlord |
Posted 20th Jun 2007 4:59am |  |
waR`.se
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I would guess that the drivers for the 8800 cards are handling TGA files differently then older cards thus making this effect..... |
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| OutlawSkot33 |
Posted 20th Jun 2007 7:32am |
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| Quoting hA Warlord | | I would guess that the drivers for the 8800 cards are handling TGA files differently then older cards thus making this effect..... |
No, it shouldnt matter what the card is. image files are software based and not hardware. (to a point that is) |
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| hA Warlord |
Posted 20th Jun 2007 8:35am | |
waR`.se
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Yeah thats why i said drivers 
the latest drivers are handling TGA files differently, is that clearer?  |
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| OutlawSkot33 |
Posted 20th Jun 2007 9:39pm |
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| Quoting hA Warlord | Yeah thats why i said drivers
the latest drivers are handling TGA files differently, is that clearer? |
yeah, and im more awake after 12 hours of sleep |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 21st Jun 2007 5:49am | |
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| Quoting OutlawSkot33 | 8800 GTS 640mb is a costly little (big card really) bugger isnt it.
Even though I dont play RF, I'll be checking this topic since Im about to start using the same vid card. A solution im thinking is doing what NoClandFrank mentioned on page one regarding an older version of I guess the game. Also, what brand is the card? For example, the one I have is from EVGA. |
Brandnames really only tell you about the reliabiltiy of the card (like if the card doesn't work at all sometimes, has a tendancy to die, etc ... If two different brands both have a matching 8800 chipset, the only difference is the reliability of the brandname and their design of the board Itself) The little things like this would probably be a problem with the chipset if its a hardware problem  ...
of course i could be wrong ... this is what ive always assumed from experience about graphics cards and their chipsets ... correct me if anybody has seen two differen't brandnames produce two cards with the same chipset but have different results like this ...
Hmm, why would the latest drivers overlook something like rendering TGA textures correctly? 
maybe you should install Descent 3 or something else that uses a TGA texture system to test this theory ...
We should probably keep in mind that RF's engine is truely unique compared to most games today  ... |
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Modified Jun 21st, 05:56am by Assaultman67 |
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| hA Warlord |
Posted 21st Jun 2007 6:22am | |
waR`.se
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I have gotten problems with the textures in RF looking weird before so it was just something that got to my mind
But this looks more like a 3D rendering problem then a texture problem...
I might get myself a 8800 card later this month so i can se this problem in action |
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Modified Jun 21st, 07:25am by hA Warlord |
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| sobe |
Posted 21st Jun 2007 10:04pm |
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Branded cards mean almost everything during your purchase. For instance, XFX brand offers a double lifetime warranty, for you, and it also covers whoever you sell it to. The only downside to XFX, is they don't replace if overclocked, etc. With eVGA, you get a lifetime warranty that covers overclocking, etc. eVGA also has excellent customer support and a great program called the Step-Up Program where within 90days of purchase on your card, you can upgrade to a better card, at only the difference of cost.
Anyway, just build a cheap machine for $140 of the prices I put on NewEgg and you can have yourself an older gaming machine that will run RF perfectly fine. |
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Posted 22nd Jun 2007 2:15am | |
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Maybe not quite $130, but nothing over $300, really. Its never a bad idea to have more than one computer in a household, means more fun for all. |
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| OutlawSkot33 |
Posted 22nd Jun 2007 4:11am |
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Well, once I get my desktop up and running (whenever motherboard,RAM,and procc. get here) Im gonna see how it looks in UT2004 since some textures imported are .tga |
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| sobe |
Posted 22nd Jun 2007 4:37am |
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UT04 runs perfectly fine on tested eVGA brand 8600GTS, 8800GTS 320MB, 8800GTS 640MB, 8800GTX, and 8800 Ultra.
At least in my experience they all ran fine with the game. Only trouble I had with any of the above mentioned cards, would have to be Red Faction, and earlier drivers had slight issues in CounterStrike Source. |
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