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Assaultman67    Posted 17th Feb 2006 9:36pm
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i don't use messengers too much, if i do its on the main PC in my living room ... i don't want to get any messengers whatsoever close to my PC that i play games on.
   
NoClanFrank    Posted 17th Feb 2006 10:30pm
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Please do not confuse MSN messenger with Windows XP preinstalled messenger. You DO NOT need Windows messenger to run MSN messenger.
The one with the big security risks is windows messenger, which if I remember is an older version(4.7? ).
Not only that that older messenger doesn't have the new smileys that the newer one does.

MSN Messenger 7.0

>Click Here< If You Don't Have a Social Life :/    Modified Feb 17th, 10:31pm by NoClanFrank
Kiliad   Posted 18th Feb 2006 5:04am
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Any luck with solving the problem Frank?
I tried NoAdWare and it found Backdoor.HackDoC which is rather nasty.
Just check C:\Windows to see if you have a file called kl.exe which usually has zero bytes.
I also found some other bothersome critters with this app.
Not sure if its done the trick yet or not.
I think all these companies get together and make sure their products don't all do the same things. That way you have to buy all of them to make sure you're covered
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NoClanFrank    Posted 18th Feb 2006 6:20am
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No I didn't find that file, but I did find this information:

W32/Klexe@MM

Then they go on to say to Disable System Restore for this reason:
Windows ME and XP utilize a restore utility that backs up selected files automatically to the C:\_Restore folder. This means that an infected file could be stored there as a backup file, and Virus Scan will be unable to delete these files. You must disable the System Restore Utility to remove the infected files from the C:\_Restore folder.
Which only makes me wonder if having the restore feature even worth having enabled.
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Kiliad   Posted 18th Feb 2006 6:26am
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Its about time we just trashed our computers and started to rebuild their design from scratch. If we had our OS's entirely on ROMs instead of our HD's, we wouldn't have to worry so much about worms and viruses. My Commodore 64 never had a bug.... mind you it probably wouldn't handle RF either lol.
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NoClanFrank    Posted 18th Feb 2006 6:33am
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My TANDY 1000 EX can beat up your Commodore 64.



Hows that for a laptop...without a monitor/view screen.

Any way, did it solve your problem when you removed that file?

>Click Here< If You Don't Have a Social Life :/    Modified Feb 18th, 06:39am by NoClanFrank



T-M-I-N-E   Posted 18th Feb 2006 6:46am
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Quoting NoClanFrank


Then they go on to say to Disable System Restore for this reason:
Windows ME and XP utilize a restore utility that backs up selected files automatically to the C:\_Restore folder. This means that an infected file could be stored there as a backup file, and Virus Scan will be unable to delete these files. You must disable the System Restore Utility to remove the infected files from the C:\_Restore folder.
Which only makes me wonder if having the restore feature even worth having enabled.


System restore is there to bail out those that are too stupid or too lazy or too stupid and lazy to follow simple directions like in the three sentences you quoted.

I think I'm too stupid but I'm too lazy to find out for sure.

Sorry that's not more help Kiliad. The problem with XP is it groups processes together in that handy way it has so you can never be precisely sure what process is doing what with whom.... tarts.

* Frank, a computer is not a computer unless it has rubber keys.

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NoClanFrank    Posted 18th Feb 2006 6:52am
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Quoting T-M-I-N-E
System restore is there to bail out those that are too stupid or too lazy or too stupid and lazy to follow simple directions like in the three sentences you quoted.

No I agree, I've had to use it more often than I care to say. But in my opinion. If your PC is running perfect, you can turn it off and then reboot and enable it again. This way hopefully you can get rid of some junk that you don't really need. Also after the reboot. Make sure you make/add a restore point, just to be on the safe side.
I had a friend that never added any restore points on his PC and when it came down to fixing his PC. I had no choice but to format the hard drive and reinstall the Operating System(OS) again.
In case you are wondering, non of the restore points worked and the hoser never does the windows updates, which leaves his PC in more vulnerable.
Quoting T-M-I-N-E
* Frank, a computer is not a computer unless it has rubber keys.

Is that rubber like what rubbers are called in England or as in Rubbers here in America.
>Click Here< If You Don't Have a Social Life :/    Modified Feb 18th, 06:55am by NoClanFrank
T-M-I-N-E   Posted 18th Feb 2006 6:57am
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Hey... Sexy is sexy all around the world... you dig baby?
   
Molodiets   Posted 18th Feb 2006 7:06am
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This process is totally useles to surf the web or play on-line. All computers around the world needn't know what Windows gossips about you. Just set zone alarm to block it for good and you won't have any problem with it anymore.
spoilsport    
Kiliad   Posted 18th Feb 2006 12:06pm
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If I set Zone Alarm to stop the Generic Host Process I'd have no internet connection at all. Plus I got the bug with Zone Alarm running on high security settings. There are many ways to sneak around its defenses. I scan daily with every antivirus and spyware/malware app I have and frequently find little nasties.
Most never get the chance to install themselves, but this one sure did.

Frank - I'm not sure yet if the problem is solved.
"The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with." - Groucho Marx    
ExoStatic   Posted 18th Feb 2006 3:26pm
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I once found 10 viruses that found their way onto my comp somehow, even with Norton Autoprotect enabled.. shows you're never safe...

I also regularly find tracking cookies with AdAware, but they don't harm my PC!

I enjoy it when I find high-risk objects and delete them.. gives me a "healthy" feeling
Back in RF... getting back into the swing of things!    
goober   Posted 18th Feb 2006 3:44pm
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I enjoy it when i find high-risk objects and screw around with them
just testing to see what they can do.
I remember once finding a keylogger and going to random sites typing in passwords just to screw with it
I map stuff. Sometimes.
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Kiliad   Posted 19th Feb 2006 12:32am
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Hehehe yeah I've done that too.
I also go to the fake banking websites that come in email sometimes and I enter false details. I hope there's nobody actually called Heimlicht Finklehorton because some hacker has all his credit card info lol.
"The pen is mightier than the sword.. and considerably easier to write with." - Groucho Marx    
goober   Posted 19th Feb 2006 12:50am
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LOL NICE One Killad! I gotta try that.... sucscribe for like 5 months worth of Viagra and sent it to Ghfjkdfk Hjklsdfh At 123 Fake St. Hgjgfj, New Zealand
I map stuff. Sometimes.
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