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| Assassin |
  Posted 11th Aug 2005 9:40pm |
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I was thinking and its probably gonig to make you scream and shout at me.... When I sent you the map, it had no objects in it. No room effect (sky room) object. Im not sure if you knew that or not. Im assuming you did when I posted I was going to take everything out. I should have worded that better. Sorry mad  I think we thought about this long enough! I apperciate your part in helping me out. Although, the problem still is here. I really dont think there is any way around it. Ive learned that its good to know how you want your map layout to be before you start building it if your going to use portals with a skybox. So, actually some good came out of this. |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 12:34am |
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The first thing i did was make a skybox. But even without it you would get the hall of mirrors effect.
I think that when you have completely finished the map, send it to me, I will try the portals on it again. If it works I will upload it, if it doesn't work then I will upload the original.
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| Assassin |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 4:04am |
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I was just about to upload it right now but, if your willing to keep at it, then by all means please! All in honesty, the map performance is playable. I just want it to be as best as can be and I feel it can be better. One area with the mirrored portals to me is unacceptable and that's where we are with this post. The only thing is, I don't want to miss this weekends update (if there is going to be one). I'm not sure if there is a special day NCF does his updates. Ive already made my description on a handy note pad. Ill send a link to that for you also so you can just copy and paste. Thank you mad for taking the time and offering all your help. Means a lot to me  Check you PM box. |
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NoClanFrank  |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 5:56am |  |
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| Quoting Assassin | | I'm not sure if there is a special day NCF does his updates. |
Saturdays. The file submissions have gotten a little slow that we are only doing them once a week but so far there are:
5 maps by various authors
1 movie by D2k & Tico Torres
1 Weapon Skin Mod by REDFROG. |
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| Assassin |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 6:00am |
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A new weapons skin mod by RED!!! Cant wait for that one. A movie and 5 maps. Looking forward to this update. Thanks for the sneak peak. |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 8:44am |
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| NoClanFrank |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 9:04am | |
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I got it to work.
Now what do you want me to do with it? 
Also you might want to let him know that if he is using default sounds, he doesn't have to add them to the .vpp. It will work if they are already in the game. Which means that the file size would have been a hell of a lot smaller.  |
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Modified Aug 12th, 09:07am by NoClanFrank |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 10:15am |
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| Quoting NCF | I got it to work.
Now what do you want me to do with it? |
I want you to burn it onto a CD and Fed-Ex it over to the UK please
Ahhh I just tried it in IE and it seems to be working... Grrrr Firefox
Thanks anyways! |
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| goober |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 1:58pm | |
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| Quoting mad_ferrit | | Quoting NCF | I got it to work.
Now what do you want me to do with it? |
I want you to burn it onto a CD and Fed-Ex it over to the UK please
Ahhh I just tried it in IE and it seems to be working... Grrrr Firefox
Thanks anyways! |
IE RULES!!!!!
FIREFOX DROOLS!!!!!
sorry that was my 5 year old self talking there....
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 2:28pm |
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I'm not entering a Firefox vs. Internet Explorer debate, I use Firefox for the simple fact that I do not have to have 20 million windows open at the bottom of my screen when multi-tasking with MSN, RED Ed / Hammer, Photoshop, Winamp, Ventrillo and God knows what else going on. I like the fact that Firefox and Opera keep all the browser windows together in one box. Oh and the Adblock feature
Anyways back on topic, I'll have a scoot round the map when I get home from work. Will need someone to help me test it tho... if you don't mind
| Quoting NCF | | Also you might want to let him know that if he is using default sounds, he doesn't have to add them to the .vpp. It will work if they are already in the game Which means that the file size would have been a hell of a lot smaller |
Can I assume from this thatyou've opened the map in RED? Or did you just view it in VPP Builder? If you opened it in RED did you have a look at the portalling? Did you find any problems? (other than how much he'd punished RED editor in terms of it's limitations ) |
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| ExoStatic |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 3:22pm |
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Pick me, pick me!! I'll test  |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 4:14pm |
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WOW!!!  ALL I CAN SAY IS WOW!!!  And it's not often i say that when looking at RF maps!
This map is stunning... simply oozes class! Seeing it with the textures and lighting it simply looks fabulous. I could not stop walking round it checking everything out. This map is a lesson to any mapper out there in terms of detail and good looks 
That's the good news ^^^ The bad news is that the extra portals do not work as you had already stated, and I cannot get them to work But all is not lost, the map is still pretty well portalled, the drop in FPS is accountable by the fact that you have taken RED almost as far as it will go, but the results are still fine IMO
One thing I did not like was the fact that you had set your level's ambient lighting to Jet Black in the level properties. This causes all your pickups to be black and have no detail or texturing, making some of them difficult to make out. I have never seen any advantage with doing this in terms of adding to the level's lighting, it should be a very dark grey instead to maintain the detail on your weapons and ammo etc.
I would say that the texturing is perfect, and indeed to look at it is... trully exsquisite work, well done But somewhere along the way you have accumulated 48 ps2 faces which will aid to a drop in performance. PS2 faces are simply caused by overtiling the textures on a given face. If you imagine each texture sheet as a square then you have way too many squares on one or more faces somwhere. They do not help in terms of performance  Always keep an eye on them when you're building and texuring, and in some cases you need to plan your build around them. For example if you have a very large brush then you would be better off creating it with splits in it to break up the faces and reduce the PS2's, which ideally should be zero. Something to think about next time
Other than that, great work buddy!!! I have not seen a map that looks this good for a long long time! I want more from you!
Note to NoClanFrank: I have no cause to change the level, and given the lad is on 56k, would you be able to add the map to the update form the link? I'll PM you the other details. Thanks
Note to Assassin: You need to get a screenshot for the map and send it to NoClanFrank, or post it in this thread and we'll get it sorted somehow |
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| NoClanFrank |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 8:56pm | |
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| Quoting mad_ferrit | | Note to NoClanFrank: I have no cause to change the level, and given the lad is on 56k, would you be able to add the map to the update form the link? I'll PM you the other details. Thanks |
I can just a esasily upload to the FTP. I am assuming the version I got last night is the final version? Or should I add more portals.
*Thinks to himself*
Why the heck is he going to do the work when Mad_Weasel can do it all in a blink of an eye. |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 12th Aug 2005 9:17pm |
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Yeah just keep the current version to which he takes all credit. I did nothing to help him, I merely tried to improve his portalling. The attempts were pretty futile
If I were you Frank don't go messing with it in RED, you might just screw it up You kno what you're like 
Perhaps remove the default wav files like you suggested earlier, and all that's left is the screenshot
And don't call me mad_weasel or I'll bite you NoC**kFrank |
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