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Hapa Hanu   Posted 28th Dec 2007 4:30pm
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Many of us have wondered - Why was that post deleted? or Why was that topic edited?

I will tell you why.

In the cause of civil discourse.

This site is not run by the United Nations under a special International Free Speech Charter. It is run by individuals who are increasingly weary of insulting and unconstructive dialog. The mission of L4Y is to provide files and not to provide a wrestling ring for blood thirsty egos.

From now on, before you post, please take a moment to check yourself. Are you angry? Are you seeking to vilify someone? Furthermore, how will your post be understood or potentially misunderstood?

From now on, anything that happens outside of L4Y - stays outside L4Y. Keep it in the game servers or your MSN IM - not another 20 hate filled topics here. I have stood back this past season, hoping that folks would be able to resolve their differences. Unfortunately the divides have magnified. (Really dissappointing.)

To ensure that there is no hypocrisy on my part - I will not restart the L4Y RF server. Consider it dead.

Thanks for your considerations.
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Molodiets   Posted 28th Dec 2007 4:39pm
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yeah. Censorship is killing Red Faction (most usual insult on this forum)


PS: Hillary Clinton is killing Red Faction!!! (yes. It works too!!!!)


I did my best to have the first comment just as clear and comprehensible as the starting post of the topic
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RED-FROG   Posted 28th Dec 2007 4:50pm
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Quote

o ensure that there is no hypocrisy on my part - I will not restart the L4Y RF server. Consider it dead.

I don't know why but this is probably the best way to do it.

HOOHAA (sorry for mispelling) has been hacked/crashed, too

Why bother keep running and going through heavy trouble and time waste when there is a community that doesn't care about it.

I have tryed to open the eyes of the people here. It failed. You shall see what you get for not being active. Or you can just hope for these person which try to destroy RF will get bored in their doing.
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Ghostkid   Posted 28th Dec 2007 4:53pm
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Everyone starts to hate l4y because of all posts getting deleted/topics getting closed.

UT3 FTW !
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 Modified Dec 28th, 04:57pm by Ghostkid
Molodiets   Posted 28th Dec 2007 4:55pm
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It may sound like hapa hanu has her periods. But it ain't so.
For a long long time, pressure has been raising in Happa hanu's mind. People were bashing each other and complaining about pure faction or other things and happa was fighting with himself
"I must refrain from censoring" he said to himself. Then he sudenly blew up. "Enough is enough. levels4you needs me to be strong. Users need a new regime to save them from those useless feuds. They are... hummm. well.. well... killing red faction. Let's shut my server again and make a noisy statement .
From now on, l4y users will have to talk only about happyness and carebears.
No talk about RF or other games"
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Ghostkid   Posted 28th Dec 2007 4:59pm
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FTW
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Xfire: Ghostkid1  
 
Ghostkid   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:04pm
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Hapa closes them. and NCF deletes the posts. i think they are having a competition.
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RED-FROG   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:09pm
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Nobody can compete with NoClanFranks member/staff points! He's the king!
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Molodiets   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:15pm
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Quoting Ghostkid
Everyone starts to hate l4y because of all posts getting deleted/topics getting closed.



Ha ha ha.
yes i woke up in sweat this morning thinking " I hate l4y because of all those arguements and censorship. I'm gonna kill it"
spoilsport    Modified Dec 28th, 05:20pm by Molodiets
Trump   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:25pm
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This thread should have been closed after the first post. You spoke in volumes to me, Hapa. Surprised we haven't heard from Garner on all the BS that's been going on in his website.
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Molodiets   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:26pm
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Maybe Garner like so many users, doesn't care about pure faction or even red faction at all and he doesn't read what is related to it.
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SkipRat    Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:29pm
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molodiets I love you will you marry me sweetheart
Meh...    
blinded2   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:30pm
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these kind of problems arent new to L4Y, they are just now overshadowing all others due to the fact that so few people still frequent the forums here.

iv been an infrequent member here at L4Y since 03 and really have not contributed much to the forums because of these type of issues.(< points to post count)

i learned the true nature of these forums very early on. though i do enjoy the occasion discussion here, its not worth my time to get involved in any of the "disputes."

im here to make maps, encourage others and have fun in the process.
"Whenever you feel like criticizing any one," he told me, "just remember that all the people in this world haven't had the advantages that you've had."    Modified Dec 28th, 05:30pm by blinded2
RED-FROG   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:58pm
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And I'm here to keep a community together and not just leaving blank forums behind, which would be a bad reflection on the situation of RF.
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Hapa Hanu   Posted 28th Dec 2007 5:58pm
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Quoting molodiets
It may sound like hapa hanu has her periods. But it ain't so.
For a long long time, pressure has been raising in Happa hanu's mind. People were bashing each other and complaining about pure faction or other things and happa was fighting with himself
"I must refrain from censoring" he said to himself. Then he sudenly blew up. "Enough is enough. levels4you needs me to be strong. Users need a new regime to save them from those useless feuds. They are... hummm. well.. well... killing red faction. Let's shut my server again and make a noisy statement .
From now on, l4y users will have to talk only about happyness and carebears.
No talk about RF or other games"


molodiets, you insult me again - why? and for what? Consider where the arguements have gone - nowhere. No resolution, no meeting of the middle ground and all my recommendations ignored both public and private. Is this the beginning of a new regime? Nope. I have been open this entire time, fielding questions and concerns both in public and private.


Quoting Ghostkid
Hapa closes them. ...

The honest truth is, I have not been deleting or editing posts for quite a while nor have I closed any topics. Just like I did not close this topic. In fact I wanted to leave this topic open, with the hopeful intention that members would come forward and share their perspectives. Give everyone a chance. Not that we have to hold hands around the campfire but realize that if you want something - you are going to have to work with other people to get it.

I am going to level with each and every one of you. Red Faction will be played even if no one visits l4y or uses Pure.

If you don't appreciate my open approach - then leave.
I have suffered in real life for the past couple years, now its your turn!    
Molodiets   Posted 28th Dec 2007 6:01pm
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I'm here to bash the most possible persons and encourage the feuds to be continued.
And i love you too, skiprat

edit: oh and hapa, you felt insulted. Sorry. I was just kiding.
Why don't you just let them argue. It brings them back on the forum again and again and give a little occupation in their miserable lives. Who cares. If one day they find another occupation rather than browsing the forum again and again to reply to an accusation or boast, then those arguements will stop. If the arguements carry on, it's because those who participate in it, enjoy it
spoilsport    Modified Dec 28th, 06:06pm by Molodiets
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