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FuryThor   Posted 22nd Feb 2007 3:08pm
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Quoting Assaultman67
If RF III comes with ads, i would be willing to bet that it is the first thing that people try to hack.

I don't want to see a shick razor or a best buy ad, especially in a futuristic game ... but i wouldn't mind a nice photo of me ...

it would be another way RF III could become a disaster ...



For some reason I have to agree that nowday ads in futuristic game would not be credible. So that should be feature that can be turned Off...
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Molodiets   Posted 22nd Feb 2007 3:51pm
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Quoting Assaultman67

I don't want to see a shick razor in a futuristic game


you're right.
Gilette is better!
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Ghostkid   Posted 22nd Feb 2007 4:19pm
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Quoting molodiets
Quoting Assaultman67

I don't want to see a shick razor in a futuristic game


you're right.
Gilette is better!

lmfao

actually i stopped playing RF. shame on me.


but thats because off Goober who ruined my RF j/k,

dunno, RF3 or the source code. i think id choose the source code.
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Hapa Hanu   Posted 22nd Feb 2007 5:05pm
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Hey - I heard back from V-Becker!




Q1. Is Red Faction approaching the point of abandonware? It has been out for a while now but I would imagine the Geo Mod Technology would prevent it's abandonment.

A1. 1. There is no such thing as “abandonware”. That is just a made-up term that the community has created. Anyway, since THQ owns the Red Faction license, and they are still in business, Red Faction is certainly not abandonware.


Q2. There is a particular gentleman who hosts a back up RF Game Tracker. I hope there are no legal issues with this, is there?

A2. I see no reason why that should be a problem.


Q3. - omitted from public disclosure -
A3. - omitted from public disclosure -


Q4. There is a particular gentleman who has described an interest in aquiring the domain name redfaction.com. If not possible, would it be feasible to remove the dead links from the community page?

A4. I do not foresee that domain name being released.


Q5. There are a variety of vulnerabilities between the Game Tracker and clients. Is there a way to patch the Game Tracker?

A5. There are no plans to further update Red Faction.


Q6. Regarding Red Faction clients - would Volition consider patching up the many vulnerabilities?

A6. There are no plans to further update Red Faction.


Q7. Red Faction 3? So many rumours and speculations about it. If it will be released - will it include vehicles in multiplayer? a level editor? ported for MACs? lol - I had to ask.

A7. Well, since Red Faction 3 only exists in rumors, I obviously can’t comment on what it would contain, should it be real. I can only comment on things that THQ has officially publicly announced.


Q8. - omitted from public disclosure -
A8. - omitted from public disclosure -




Well it took a while - but he finally got around to it - thanks V-Becker!
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FuryThor   Posted 22nd Feb 2007 6:55pm
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Hmm, Few interesting answers that also I have been wondering of.
I would say that abandonware is such a software that has no longer legal owner, who could be offended from free distribution over internet.

Anyhow, as RF3 is more or less confirmed I so quess it could mean that if we really want RF souce code we need to put preasure for THQ and create them a good reason to give us the source code

(ie. there would be dedicated team formed from community members which works to develop improved Red Faction engine. This improved engine would then be plantform for all new modifications and levels)

And I am standing behind my words that I will put effort to see such thing to happen. However before I make any major move I will wait and see does V-Allender Answer this query and what it is.
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Slitzerfest   Posted 22nd Feb 2007 6:56pm
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Quoting FuryThor
it Definetly would be some serious reason to party.


Dam right it would be... not even that we can make our own Games from it like Counter-Strike did with Half-Life, but we could create better modding tools, and advanced level editors and other features that were not previously in RF.

Think how much we could do if we made a community of RF coders.
As John Lennon once said, "Imagine all the people"

And another VERY BIG PROBLEM HERE......

WHY WAS QUESTIONS 3 AND 8 DISCLOSED TO PUBLIC EXPOSURE?!
We need some answers dude! If you asked about the source please PM me immediately!

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D2k   Posted 23rd Feb 2007 2:51am
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Bah, don't bother posting any feedback from any volition employees, Espically if it's the same old trivial nonsense that we have been getting fed since RF2... All everyone wants to know (and you know its true because you think it too) is if there is going to be a RF3. All we have been getting is this phrase in many different variants; "its not offically announced"

Honestly, it's tiring to hear that phrase over and over and...

... Guess we will get these lame answers every time you ask someone from volition a question. Stupid THQ...
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Ninja~   Posted 23rd Feb 2007 3:49am
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I don't know what gave you that idea.. Honestly, If we were interested in "new school" games, would we be here in the Red Faction section?
   
Assaultman67    Posted 23rd Feb 2007 5:09am
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I would think that if they weren't at least thinking about producing RF III they would just tell us "No, there are no plans for RF III"

But im beginning to think that they are just saying that to keep us interested in the RF plot so that we are potencial customers in the future

they have been saying that for (what seems like) at least a year ...

Its starting to become the time where we should realize that there is probably no RF III coming .

lets face it, there is no reason whatsoever to develop a game secretly ... their product won't sell as well if they did ... the only reason i could think of was that they were trying to surprize one of their competitors with it, but that is still a retarted reason to keep it a secret ... why try to take your competitor offguard, if your game isn't going to sell?

The straws are definitely gathering for me ...

Edit: D2k, i listened to your Galactic Frontier music/song thingy ...

you're getting pretty damn good
   Modified Feb 23rd, 05:14am by Assaultman67
Hapa Hanu   Posted 23rd Feb 2007 8:13am
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Question 3 and Question 8 were subjects of a more personal nature. I included them in the listing so that everyone could see - I asked 8 questions and I got 8 answers. Nothing scary.

I have known V-Becker longer as a fellow MAC user than as an employee of Volition.

Don't Panic.

One day we will all learn - does V-Becker like Chevy more than Ford?
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Molodiets   Posted 23rd Feb 2007 9:46am
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Quoting Hapa Hanu
Hey - I heard back from V-Becker!




Q1. Is Red Faction approaching the point of abandonware? It has been out for a while now but I would imagine the Geo Mod Technology would prevent it's abandonment.

A1. 1. There is no such thing as “abandonware”. That is just a made-up term that the community has created. Anyway, since THQ owns the Red Faction license, and they are still in business, Red Faction is certainly not abandonware.


Q2. There is a particular gentleman who hosts a back up RF Game Tracker. I hope there are no legal issues with this, is there?

A2. I see no reason why that should be a problem.


Q3. - omitted from public disclosure -
A3. - omitted from public disclosure -


Q4. There is a particular gentleman who has described an interest in aquiring the domain name redfaction.com. If not possible, would it be feasible to remove the dead links from the community page?

A4. I do not foresee that domain name being released.


Q5. There are a variety of vulnerabilities between the Game Tracker and clients. Is there a way to patch the Game Tracker?

A5. There are no plans to further update Red Faction.


Q6. Regarding Red Faction clients - would Volition consider patching up the many vulnerabilities?

A6. There are no plans to further update Red Faction.


Q7. Red Faction 3? So many rumours and speculations about it. If it will be released - will it include vehicles in multiplayer? a level editor? ported for MACs? lol - I had to ask.

A7. Well, since Red Faction 3 only exists in rumors, I obviously can’t comment on what it would contain, should it be real. I can only comment on things that THQ has officially publicly announced.


Q8. - omitted from public disclosure -
A8. - omitted from public disclosure -




Well it took a while - but he finally got around to it - thanks V-Becker!


30 lines to tell..... nothing

it was definately worth waiting
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Hapa Hanu   Posted 23rd Feb 2007 4:46pm
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Quoting molodiets
30 lines to tell..... nothing

it was definately worth waiting


Maybe these were not the answers you were looking for?

Irregardless, haven't we learned more about ourselves? Doesn't that make it worth waiting?
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D2k   Posted 23rd Feb 2007 6:50pm
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Quoting Hapa Hanu
Irregardless, haven't we learned more about ourselves? Doesn't that make it worth waiting?
Well if you want to learn more about the RF community with a little Q and A. You will probably find out very quickly we are all very pissed off because:
A. RF2 sucked
B. Neither RF1 nor RF2 have NO support whatsoever.
C. RF1 is buggier than the underside of a big rock.
D. RF2 has no SDK and the SDK for RF1 is buggy and filled with problems.
E. THQ have no love for any of their published products, only their money. Which is why we all hate them because they don't support any of their games because they aparrently don't see any profit in that.
F. THQ doesn't listen to the community. Only the corporation wallet.

And finally, our beloved hatred for THQ.
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