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Morgoth   Posted 23rd Dec 2006 11:13pm
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Hello Dear RF-Xmod Members,

Here as foreseen Red Faction - Xmod Beta 1 ready for Christmas.


Now Officially Available to Download
RedFaction-Xmod_Installer-Beta_v1.0


Xmod Official Server (DM TDM CTF)

Ready for public


Online Match

Start at 8h00PM (GMT Eastern Time) today, Saturday 23.
Other news and match events will take place soon in 2007.


Instalation Instructions

Xmod Installer perform a clean and easy install/un-install.

1- Apply the Official Red Faction patch 1.20
2- Launch "Xmod_Installer_version.exe"

You are ready to play Xmod on anti-cheater server.


Dedicated Server (Hoster Note!)

If you experience problem to let client see your server, it's probably the use of a third party dedicated tools. Try to cut 'DMRC-Mappack01 'and 'CTFRC-Mappack01' located in mods/Xmod to paste it in standard multi folder.

Maps file name Convention (Extra Info)
Official – RC Mappack

dmrc01 – Standard DM version
dmrc01v123 – Other version of a same map (version always at the end in case of CS/SP version)
dmrc01cs – Combat Suit Enable (with Synchro Start System)
dmt01 – T = temporary (un-tweaking or un-sure map), eventually take permanent status
ctfdmrc01sp – Combat Suit - Survive & Protect mode (need CTF to score, but it keep the same DM name convention)


Beta 1 will have few maps to start, but many RC Mappack update are planned after the release. Note also that Xmod is a tweak mod where a lot of modifications are not visual by the first sight. Red Faction – Xmod, is a kind of homage for the 'Geo Technology' and keeping the Red Faction mood is also wanted.


Red Faction - Xmod Quick Teaser


RedFaction-Xmod Mouse Pad

Here a little Red Faction - Xmod souvenir you can get. I cannot promise you will frag more players, but if you need a new Mouse Pad, here's your chance to grab a custom.

Take a look - Mouse Pad


Morgoth
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D2k   Posted 24th Dec 2006 10:13am
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I would appriceate it if you made a version that wasnt an exe... I don't like to have an executable just to install a mod when it can be a simple 2-3 step process.
1. Open compressed archive.
2. If archive doesn't have a mod folder and only content then make the mod folder yourself.
3. Drag and drop mod folder or content into RF mods folder.

Sorry to downtalk to your extra labor, but thats the way I prefer it. As do others.

Can't wait to try the mod though. Also, hope it's compatibl with SP.
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goober   Posted 24th Dec 2006 1:36pm
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Its not, all your bullets sink to the ground
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Morgoth   Posted 24th Dec 2006 6:10pm
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Quoting D2k

I would appriceate it if you made a version that wasnt an exe...

lol, I confess that I don’t really understand why you absolutely need to make theses steps 123. Honestly I prefer not, because it will increase confusion for which download version is GoOd for people who don't know.

Also, not only the user will not have a little functional Xmod shortcut, but also force them to launch it by others tools or command. Some extra steps will give confusion even for RF veteran to why they have mismatch because Xmod use the anti-cheat LazyBan130.exe instead of the standard RF.exe I would like to do it for you, but sorry I cannot do that. Just double click it, the installer auto find your game path I hope you can accept the .exe version!


Quoting D2k

Can't wait to try the mod though. Also, hope it's compatibl with SP.
Quoting goober

Its not, all your bullets sink to the ground

Red Faction - Xmod focus on multiplayer aspect to regroup together more RF fans Online.
I know is a tuff challenge for many reason.

Like goober experience, the bullet sink on the ground in single, because it's the only method to enable a multiplayer velocity over 100 for bullet and at the same time have bullet fx on it to see them. They also work in multiplayer, because i optimize the lifetime on bullet to not reach the 36 maximum limit of the engine.

Except the velocity, everything would be fine. Also, the file size will go around 4x bigger with all single player level just to have the Xmod gravity, weapons ammo,etc. If the demand is there maybe i would upload a single player version, note that I will not change story but just apply the minimum conversion, tweak the difficulty and maybe add few others things. Xmod multiplayer is the goal.


Morgoth
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steveands   Posted 26th Dec 2006 4:10am
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By having the installer as an exe it excludes all of the linux and mac users from being able to install and run the mod.

If the

"Red Faction - Xmod focus on multiplayer aspect to regroup together more RF fans Online."

is the focus maybe offering a version not as an .exe would regroup more users.

Just a thought.

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NoClanFrank    Posted 26th Dec 2006 4:22am
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It wouldn't be that hard to replace the file with something that contained the folders needed but that still wouldn't allow MAC users to join. Unless you know of a way to allow MAC users to run mods. If you have than can you post it here as I am sure Hapa_Hanu would really appreciate it. He hasn't been able to get them to work, even if he adds the sub folders that the PC version needs or should I say already has. Apparently the MAC version of Red Faction doesn't really work as simple as the PC version.
If it was a final version, I wouldn't mind replacing it with a non .exe file of course I would include instructions on how to install it.
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KILLER    Posted 26th Dec 2006 6:12am
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Just curious, has ANYONE gotten the mod to work and see it? If so, maybe someone can tell me what I'M doing wrong...? Thanks for any help that ANYONE can give me! I'm DYING to play this mod!
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steveands   Posted 26th Dec 2006 6:59am
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I have actually been able to get some mods to work on MAC.

I know that the sound files can tend to cause problems. The mac uses Aif instead of the Wav files contained in the VPP's.

I been able to get the following mods to work on MAC with no problems:

Nc3, Lightsabre, spp, Tweak and Star Wars Laser.

Hive12 and ISM crash on the startup page probably trying to load the modded GUI, sound or music files.

I have had recent sucess with running the red doom mod on MAC so if you can send me the files for the Xmod I might be able to convert it so that it runs on MAC and possible Linux
   Modified Dec 27th, 12:32am by steveands
Morgoth   Posted 28th Dec 2006 8:18pm
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Quoting steveands

By having the installer as an exe it excludes all of the linux and mac users from being able to install and run the mod.

...is the focus maybe offering a version not as an .exe would regroup more users.
Quoting NoClanFrank

Unless you know of a way to allow MAC users to run mods. If you have than can you post it here as I am sure Hapa_Hanu would really appreciate it.

Well, finally I will have to make a folder version, for MAC & Linux


Quoting giggles1

Just curious, has ANYONE gotten the mod to work and see it? If so, maybe someone can tell me what I'M doing wrong...? Thanks for any help that ANYONE can give me! I'm DYING to play this mod!

A little bunch of people has successfully joined the Saturday 23 online match. For now, you can send me a PM message about your problems, I will add a support link in Xmod home page at the beginning of the year before the second online match.


Quoting steveands

so if you can send me the files for the Xmod I might be able to convert it so that it runs on MAC and possible Linux

Thanks to tend your hand, is appreciated, but I will do it on my side to release it at the right moment also for future update and download filename.


At the moment, have fun in your Christmas vacation
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steveands   Posted 29th Dec 2006 1:42pm
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I can confirm that the beta version runs on the mac.

I extracted the .exe file on my PC copied them over to the mac and then ran it from the command line. i.e. -mod xmod.

The only big hitch would be if it was to be run on a lazyban server v1,3 then no mac or linux clients could join as lazyban is not available for these versions

If the spp mod were to be incorporated into the xmod files and run on the v1.2 hosted server then this would allow all platforms to join and avoid the cheats.

Best of both worlds IMHO.
   Modified Dec 29th, 01:45pm by steveands
goober   Posted 29th Dec 2006 3:56pm
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Yes, I agree. Only problem is that Morgoth explicitly released the mod on Lazyban130. I doubt if he'd be willing to switch back over to the good ol' 1.2
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Morgoth   Posted 29th Dec 2006 6:06pm
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Like goober say, I will do everything to exterminate cheater and LazyBan130 is the best way to stop them.

I don't know how much jOb is to convert LazyBan130.exe MAC/Linux compatible, but if the RF community has a lot of MAC/Linux user, I hope some L4Y member can do it. I send a PM to SubZ account... If you have more info, can you Frank contact Subz on your side too?

How many MAC/Linux users RF have?


Thanks,
Morgoth
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steveands   Posted 29th Dec 2006 8:57pm
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How many Mac/Linux rf players out there? I know that the Mac version of RF was a hit and alot of copies were sold. By excluding those platforms you will decrease the user base of Xmod weather that be by a big or small amount you will lose potential players of the mod.

The more people you make it available to the more potential Xmod will have.

As with any mod the sucess of Xmod will rely on its user base.

Converting lazyban to run on MacosX. Not an easy job and would require the source code of which I doubt any1 would release.

By running a mod on the server side all clients would run the mod and not be able to join unless they were using it.

The spp mod is a VPP file and is cross platform and stops the cheats.

Just a thought
   Modified Dec 29th, 09:57pm by steveands
Morgoth   Posted 29th Dec 2006 10:42pm
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Quoting steveands

If the spp mod were to be incorporated into the xmod files and run on the v1.2 hosted server then this would allow all platforms to join and avoid the cheats.

I downloaded SPP mod to see if it have something special to prevent cheater, …it’s only a weapon.tbl to change fire rate. I don’t understand why you want add SPP mod in Xmod to block some cheats.


Quoting steveands

By running a mod on the server side all clients would run the mod and not be able to join unless they were using it.

Do you want to mean that if RF runs any (non-client only) mod, all available cheat cannot work when a mod is activated?


Also, in the case is GoOd, listen server (Client to Client) work like dedicated?


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steveands   Posted 30th Dec 2006 12:00am
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Some mods work if they are run on the server even it the client doesn't have the files.

eg. Wierd mod, laser mod, force respawn.

I not sure how it works
   
Morgoth   Posted 31st Dec 2006 6:38pm
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1- Can anyone confirm me that if RF run a mod folder, all cheats are not available?

2- For the last time, Official 1.20 patch does have less protection than LazyBan130 or not?


I will do my best to let MAC user run the mod, but I want something effective against cheaters!


Many users had problem to join the Saturday 23 Online Match for a very weird unknown reason. For now, some have connection problem, but I can say that if you cannot even see the Xmod In-game Menu and new model & skin, like giggles1, you have big problems!



I will open a Support section in Xmod CDC soon. I hope that this annoying problem will dissolve fast and also not discourage some Xmod member.


Be patient,
Morgoth
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