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  Posted 22nd Nov 2006 3:31am |
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Meh, the US has recieved 400,000, once they are all gone we will hear an anouncement from Sony stating, "Sorry for the inconvienance"  |
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 22nd Nov 2006 3:58am |  |
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| Quoting CommanderViper | | You have to realize though, the PS3 sales are that low because that's all America has recieved so far, the console sold out essentially. Nintendo brought a ton more consoles in for launch however. |
Quite aware of that, im also aware that the PS3 sold out in Japan on day 1 so they more then likely could have made a whole of a lot more sales if they had more units.
Im not saying they stole the idea, I'm merely saying that first they say its a gimmick and then they go and use something that's not as effective and comes across as even more gimmicky as its not necessary for game play. |
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| Patsy7z7 |
Posted 22nd Nov 2006 4:20am |
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| Quoting CommanderViper |
People are missing some of the finer points of the PS3 such as the ability to install games to the system's internal HDD in order to decrease load times and to not have to worry about the disc getting lost/stolen.
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Alright, the PS3 is using a SATA150, in which 150 is the theoretical maximum speed in megabytes for that HDD
Yes, same thing. The 150 you see the maximum theoretical transfer rate in megabytes per second. Theoretical. The PS3 uses Blu-Ray technology in its optical disks. The Blu-Ray can hold (in its weaker models) 25gb to 50gb (depending on its layering. The PS3 HDD holds 20gb or 80gb (depends on if you buy the special version or not). Compare those two numbers together now. Why would you bother to install the game, when everything you need is already in the disk? This dosent even mention Blu-Ray's plan to multi-layer their disks, allowing up to 200gb of data for one disk. As i said before, why bother installing?
Because its faster that way, you say? Lets look back at the SATA150's spped. 150mbps. This is faster than most of the current Blu-Ray disks (by about 70mbps, i think) however, Blu-Ray admits that they are capable of speeding the data transfer by a substansial amount. That means that (assumiong 10,000rpm) you can get 400mbps at the outside of the disk. Now, this prolly isint going to happen anytime that we care, but it is still going to be possible in the future. What is more likely is the upgrade to 288mbps, which is still much more than the SATA150's speed.
Keep in mind that i dont know exactly which disk drive the PS3 will be using. All i know are its capabilities.
There. Thats another part of my rant. I'm still going to say that the Wii's weaksauce HDD dosent hold anything, and that the Optical Drive for it isint the best. Remember though, you dont really need all that sapce... |
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| cyrus5 |
Posted 23rd Nov 2006 11:30am |
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SATA 150 gives a transfer of 1.2gigabits per second (gbps) or 150MB/s (megabytes per second). SATA/300, SATA 3.0 Gb/s, or SATA II depending on what you want to call it will be able to deliver 300MB/s.
The outside of a blu-ray disk can do 400mbps (megabits per second), producing a peak transfer of 100MB/s (megabytes per second). The disks theoretical maximum actual rate across the disk would be about 288mbps as they say in their FAQ, this makes it ~72MB/s.
Whilst impressive, it is still a bad comparison, you need to consider burst rate, access time, sustained transfer rate, noise...
It is the latency that you feel most, and with dvd's there is a long spin up time. A hard drives latency/seek time for random access is far far shorter than a dvd, even if their sustained transfer was similar.
I want a big RAM disk... hmm, gigabytes per second.... |
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| Patsy7z7 |
Posted 23rd Nov 2006 8:06pm |
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Agreed, Blu-Ray should make RAM disks. That woud make thigs INCREDIBLY faster...
Anybody find anything on the Wii's "Nunchuck" thing? I cant seem to find much on it.
EDIT--Looking back on my last post, i see that i messed up a lot of those mbps and MBps......although cyrus5 got them sorted out. |
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 23rd Nov 2006 11:21pm | |
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The "Nunchuk" is an add-on to the Wii-Mote, It has and analogue stick and two "Z" buttons.
It has an inbuilt accelerometer which means it can determine how fast it is being moved in any given direction.
So far I have seen it used as movement, the throwing of grenades, left hand punching (Its always in the left hand as the design is ambidextrous), opening doors. I can't think of anything else at this point.
Not a great deal much more on it. |
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