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| Bigblack40 |
  Posted 15th May 2006 6:07am |  |
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Ok ive been Working on a Zombie like parker (as showing below..Still Needs Working on....But there is a problem (listed below)
Its WAS Goin fine Untill i went away from parker
then His arms and legs went black again...Does any 1 no why this happens and how to fix  |
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| ExoStatic |
Posted 15th May 2006 5:39pm |
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| Quoting Sophie | I think it is because when you move back from a model it chages details
Maybe you have to change there textures too |
Correctamundo.
For the skin you're editing, you should see a couple of other files containing the same skin but with "LOD1" or some similar attachment. Just use your skin, resize it to the same as these and it'll be fine.
Sorry if that isn't clear, I haven't used RF for a while :S |
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| goober |
Posted 15th May 2006 6:42pm | |
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But, leave out the teeth on most of the lower detail ones, because they arnt on the low detail models, so you might end up with a set of teeth on your head in the low detail model if you keep it there on the skin... |
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| goober |
Posted 15th May 2006 7:05pm | |
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No, i just mean that the low detail meshes in RF dont have teeth, so dont put them there on your low detail skins. |
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| Bigblack40 |
Posted 15th May 2006 8:54pm | |
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ok heres a list of the files i have edited
parker_under_01.tga--Arms and legs @ 256x256
parker_under_01-mip3.tga--Arms and legs @ 64x64
parker_under_02-mip3.tga--Body & hands @ 64x64
parker_under_02-mip2.tga--Body & hands @ 128x128
parker_under_03.tga--Face Etc @ 256x128
parker_under_02.tga--Body & hands @ 256x256
parker_under_01-mip.tga--Arms and legs @ 128x128
I dont think i missed any Files.... |
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| Bigblack40 |
Posted 16th May 2006 4:59am | |
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hrmm....Ok ill try Doing it with LOD1 at end
Ya ill post it on l4y, im also gonna redo First Player arm and hands also, But i also need to know if i should also do it as a CTF Skin Blue jeans & Red Jeans...Hard to Decide |
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| Dorling |
Posted 16th May 2006 10:25pm |
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Most character skins have three different versions. These change during gameplay to save the computer from rendering the detailed version (in this case the 256x256 one) and so if you want the skin to be applied whenever then do what was said and create the other versions, making sure that they match the dimensions and name of the original. |
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Assman15  |
Posted 16th May 2006 11:01pm | |
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Mipmaps, mipmaps. Open your original skin and save a 128x128 and a 64x64 version as well. The naming resolution for the 128x128 image is skinname-mip2.tga and the naming for the 64x64 is skinname-mip3.tga.
It's really a shame Red Faction can't genorate mipmaps on it's own...  |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 17th May 2006 12:20am | |
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A sidenote, you can also have all mipmaps and the texture in one vbm.
Create all 3 TGAs for this and put them in one vbm with the makevbm tool.
VBMs are much much smaller than TGAs. And having one VBM instead of 3 TGAs is even smaller because each tga needs some extra space.
Don't ask me why the game ain't using VBMs. Maybe the feature was added to late.
(sometimes a VBM is bigger than a TGA. (when the texture is hires) But when zipped the vpp with the VBM will have a better compression!) |
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| Bigblack40 |
Posted 17th May 2006 8:33pm | |
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| Quoting REDFROG | A sidenote, you can also have all mipmaps and the texture in one vbm.
Create all 3 TGAs for this and put them in one vbm with the makevbm tool.
VBMs are much much smaller than TGAs. And having one VBM instead of 3 TGAs is even smaller because each tga needs some extra space.
Don't ask me why the game ain't using VBMs. Maybe the feature was added to late.
(sometimes a VBM is bigger than a TGA. (when the texture is hires) But when zipped the vpp with the VBM will have a better compression!) |
Hmmm...Will this work cause wouldnt the makers of the game make the skins end with *.tga would it still be able to detect skin as a VBM also how do the Mipmaps all work as one file?? |
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| goober |
Posted 17th May 2006 8:58pm | |
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Mipmaps dont work as one file, the farther away from a player/weapon/static you get, you get a lower detailed mesh... so the lower detail meshes use lower detailed mipmaps... |
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| Assman15 |
Posted 18th May 2006 2:15am | |
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| Quoting goober | | Mipmaps dont work as one file, the farther away from a player/weapon/static you get, you get a lower detailed mesh... so the lower detail meshes use lower detailed mipmaps... |
Bingo! But I think bigblack40 meant what REDFROG mentioned about compiling them all into a single VBM. I haven't tried this, but it seems like it may work... provided the VBM coding contains all the original filename info about the TGA's compiled into it. |
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NoClanFrank  |
Posted 18th May 2006 6:57am | |
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| Quoting Sophie | | It should work it sound right and you can do any thing with red faction nothing is impossible |
Except for vehicles in multiplayer.  |
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sobe  |
Posted 18th May 2006 8:10am |
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Actually, that's not true. You CAN use vehicles in multiplayer via a mod. But it wouldn't be like your a character able to just jump on one and start driving one. You would simply make player models vehicles  lol |
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| NoClanFrank |
Posted 18th May 2006 5:27pm | |
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Let me rephrase that.
Except for drivable Red Faction vehicles in multiplayer. |
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| sobe |
Posted 18th May 2006 6:57pm |
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There is no such mod out
And I dunno my way around the vehicle table files, however, the Ultor Corps Mod had the same thing in that beta vid they released. |
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