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RED-FROG   Posted 12th Oct 2005 6:23am
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Quoting E_Darkness
Well I just thought of a new way for you to make new death animations for all the charactors in the game.

Lets talk about doing this for 1 charactor.

1st you need the bone names for the charactor Get this by opening (damn its been a while) the charactor model file near the end I think is a list of names. they tell you the names of the bones.

2nd you must make a bone structure with the same names and hierachy.

3rd once you have the bone setup made you can begin to animate new third person animation files.

This probly would take loads of time to do and get right but it is doable. This would also for any 3rd person weapon arm/hand positions, allowing for your new weapons to be held correctly. Doing this for a mod would be over and above any thing that should ever be expected.

perhaps Ekoracters?
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E_Darkness   Posted 13th Oct 2005 3:06am
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Yeah that’s some incredible work you did there. I want to go test that again but I was wondering if they match your eko weapons or do they match the default weapons (3rd person models).

Ill post, or edit, this post later just want to go into more detailed analyzes of the work you did.
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D2k   Posted 13th Oct 2005 4:56am
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I HATE this topic... ive been coming to l4y for the last 2 days to see this crappy topic in the hot topics... along with a bunch of other completley useless and boring topics...

and my 2 cents, ragdolls are possible only through animation. NOT through physics... now im going to try my best to frget about this topic.
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RED-FROG   Posted 13th Oct 2005 6:26am
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Quoting D2k
I HATE this topic... ive been coming to l4y for the last 2 days to see this crappy topic in the hot topics... along with a bunch of other completley useless and boring topics...

and my 2 cents, ragdolls are possible only through animation. NOT through physics... now im going to try my best to frget about this topic.

Yup, you better should try it

Darkness:
The animations were done "with the eko weapons". You'll need a reference of a weapon attached to the hand to see whats really going on. There is no 3rd person weapons source of all the weapons in RF, thats the problem if you want to do animations for the default guns. I've re-done some animations so they fit to RFs weapons.
But anyway, there is no real need to make them look perfectly along the weapons.
Sometimes one animation set can be used by 3 or more weapons (Shotgun, Assault Rifle, Rocket Launcher..). Only the reload animation needs changes. This technique is performance/memory saving, even games like UT04 use it. (mostly every game)
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E_Darkness   Posted 13th Oct 2005 9:43pm
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Vidi44   Posted 14th Oct 2005 2:03am
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Rag doll effects are heavily taxing on the processor and memory, which is probably why they weren't put in RF (a resource-minded game). Also, does it really enhance the game that much? I've never noticed it, and when I did, it was in an offhand way (like "that's nice"). Enjoy the debate, and have fun with your pseudo-rag doll.
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Ninja~   Posted 14th Oct 2005 2:44am
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There were some cool looking effects in the first Deathrun at the start.. if you walk over the blood you would get pushed up into the ceiling.. Not the same thing, but still making the best out of what RF has to offer
   
RED-FROG   Posted 14th Oct 2005 7:04am
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Rag doll technology totally rocks

@Ninja
The corpses fly up on the ceiling, right? And then they fall down again. Now with ragdoll it'll look far better.

But yeah, sometimes RF does some nice things
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AET   Posted 15th Oct 2005 11:19am
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whats a rag doll effect?
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LordSeafood   Posted 15th Oct 2005 11:46am
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Quoting AET
whats a rag doll effect?


OMG i cant believe he just asked that

Read the WHOLE thread again

PS. if that was meant to be a joke (quite humorous actually) you should add the smiley "" which indicates you are mucking around/being silly
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pking   Posted 15th Oct 2005 11:49am
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Its Not a joke if there was a rag doll effect for red faction more ppl would play and be convinced to do more mods and stuff.
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LordSeafood   Posted 15th Oct 2005 11:58am
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Quoting pking
Its Not a joke if there was a rag doll effect for red faction more ppl would play and be convinced to do more mods and stuff.


I was talking to AET about asking the same question that sparked the onslaught(hehe i love that word) of replies here.
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