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| LordSeafood |
  Posted 8th Oct 2005 2:35am |  |
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Ive heard this quite a few times, that in multi the parker skin can jump higher than the other skins, and i have noticed no difference in jumping heights from the different characters. Yet some people will stand strongly with the idea that he indeed jumps higher. Now i was under the impression that all multi characters use the miner1 configurations in the entity.tbl which would mean they all have the same jump heights 
Can anyone either prove or disprove this theory please?
And i dont want people to jump on a server and try to figure it out like that. I want to see figures, facts, that show how high parker jumps in comparison to all the other characters. |
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NoClanFrank  |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 2:45am | |
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Well go into a map with water and use a chick Female character and go into the water.
Try to jump out...
Now do the same thing with Parker, now you see who can get out a lot easier. I use a shorter character(blue guard with the cool looking shades  ) and I have problem jumping out of holes, claiming out of the water or jumping on top of stuff other characters can't. I think it what woman have been saying all along, size does matter.
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| Predalienator |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 2:46am |
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I dissaprove the theory that the Parker skin jumps higher in multi player.But if you want to no your self create a server then ask your freinds to play in that server and tell them each to pick different charecters available in multiplayer than tell them to line up and start jumping in that server,than you see if Parker jumps higher than the other player models. |
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| goober |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 2:49am | |
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just test my map Runners Rally, on the first room, the parker char can do it no prob, all the other chars have quite a hard time  |
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| Predalienator |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 2:52am |
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So Parker can jump higher.Oh well gotta live with the facts. |
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| T-M-I-N-E |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 5:41am |
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I never heard that one before. I know the Parker characters along with the female characters can fit in spaces that other characters can't and so would seem to be smaller...
I have a problem since I upgrades to an Athlon 64. I can't get out of water at all. I knew there was the problem with P4s with HT that could be solved by running in 98 compatibility mode but this one has got me stumped.
Normally I'd just avoid water but a couple of people I trust have pointed out an abnormally high jump at times and not from the usual jumping on somebody's head.
Avoiding going in water is easy but I like jumping. Has anyone come across this on an Athlon system?
I've asked around but nobody seems to have come across this before.  |
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| D2k |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 7:00am |
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why would other players be able to jump higher... there is a master jumping height value set in the game.tbl...
The reason some characters can get to higher places is the way the collision spheres are set up. Parker is a larger character so he has a slightly bigger collision sphere and since the collision sphere is bigger, the angles of the sphere are wider therefore jumping onto ledges he can 'catch' them somewhat easier... However its such a small insignifigant difference i dont see why anyone would complain about it... anaways, other characters such as masako are smaller and can fit in smaller areas but again the difference is so small its practally insignifigant... The only map i know that masako can noticeably get around by abusing the collision sphere radius is that KOZ maze map . |
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| Nitro |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 8:22am |
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I'm surprised with everyone. I thought it was common knowlege that Parker can jump higher (along with the dark hair guy in the suit and 1 or 2 more characters) It's not even debatable...to even it up, the girl characters and some of the others can fit in places that the bigger characters can't. IE, behind the TV in Microfaction. 
A good example that I can think of is King of the Hill. Try to get the super armor on the ground level. You can do it with the bigger characters, but you'l never get it with the smaller ones. |
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| skvlad01 |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 8:32am |
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i have noticed that the female charactors dont jump as high as the others. In my map tower of snipers u can just if u try try your hardest to get on to of the ladder by jumpimg. u can just make it but all the female charactors cant do it does not matter how hard u try. |
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| elliooo |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 8:33am |
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Perhaps, rather than the how high they can jump. It is the actual size of the player. The female characters are shorter than most of the male ones, so that could be why they seem to jump lower. |
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 12:19pm | |
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| Quoting T-M-I-N-E | Normally I'd just avoid water but a couple of people I trust have pointed out an abnormally high jump at times and not from the usual jumping on somebody's head.
Avoiding going in water is easy but I like jumping. Has anyone come across this on an Athlon system?
I've asked around but nobody seems to have come across this before. |
im running an athlon system and i have to have several attempts at jumping out of water before i actually jump high enough to get out and i mostly use the elite skin or the parker skin (and neither get out any easier for me)
and i mainly come across it in darkrun with the big jump after cp4. If someone says "i cant make it its impossible" to which someone replys "use the parker skin"
I have never thought this to be true as i have done it with many different skins and i know someone who has a 100% record on that jump with a female skin so i have always thought that it wasnt true and hoping one of you guys might be able to clarify one way or the other |
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Mostertman  |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 12:45pm |
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Just get someone to stick a renote mine to the bottom of your feet, and you can jump OH SO high ! |
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| goober |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 12:49pm | |
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| Quoting T-M-I-N-E | I never heard that one before. I know the Parker characters along with the female characters can fit in spaces that other characters can't and so would seem to be smaller...
I have a problem since I upgrades to an Athlon 64. I can't get out of water at all. I knew there was the problem with P4s with HT that could be solved by running in 98 compatibility mode but this one has got me stumped.
Normally I'd just avoid water but a couple of people I trust have pointed out an abnormally high jump at times and not from the usual jumping on somebody's head.
Avoiding going in water is easy but I like jumping. Has anyone come across this on an Athlon system?
I've asked around but nobody seems to have come across this before. |
just dont crouch into the water. |
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| Ghostkid |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 7:00pm | |
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this is nuts, i just tried and i don't notice ANY difference |
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| D2k |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 8:02pm |
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*bangs head on table*
Look... parker does NOT jump higher than any other character... There is a MASTER jump value for EVERY character defined in the game.tbl it is 1.33...
Parker may SEEM to jump higher because his collision spheres are bigger, did you not read my post?
Since parker has a bigger collision sphere this not only means the angles are wider on the collision sphere itself, he stands a tiny bit taller than the rest, note that swimming characters appear swimming ONLY when 2 of the 3 collision spheres are submerged underwater, since other female characters or whatnot have their collision set up differently and there is the possibly that collision spheres that are colliding internally with one another are the cause of difficulty getting out of water, other than that their spheres are just smaller than parkers...
LISTEN and THINK this over with LOGIC... master jump value, different sized collision spheres, god, what kind of answer are you guys looking for?  |
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| NoClanFrank |
Posted 8th Oct 2005 8:06pm | |
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| Quoting D2k | | Parker may SEEM to jump higher because his collision spheres are bigger, did you not read my post? |
SO what you are saying is that Parker can jump higher when trying to jump from place to place because his collision spheres are bigger.
* Bangs D2K's head on the table* 
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