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| Red Faction : [RED] Editing : Moving stairs |
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| KERPAL |
  Posted 11th Sep 2005 3:50am |  |
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Ive always wondered if there was any way to make an escalator  Ive tried the texture scroll rate, but that usually works for conveyer belts, any ideas? do I have to do something with a keyframe? |
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| goober |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 4:19am | |
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the scroll rate i think would be your best bet, i think i could make a escalater, would be VERY hard to make with some BUGS though |
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| KERPAL |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 5:08am | |
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Yeah but if I use the scroll rate then only the textures would move, I need the whole thing to move |
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| Tech_N9ne |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 6:25am |
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| Quoting KERPAL | | do I have to do something with a keyframe? |
*Sigh* Unfortunatly I think the anwser is yes. Could prove to be quite the nightmare(esp with Buggy/Crashy RED). Although, never say never. 
P.S. Are you trying to apply this method with this
set of stairs?
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| KERPAL |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 7:35am | |
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No, not with that one then that would be way too tough lol, just a normal straight staircase  |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 11:05pm | |
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I've done this in a VFX file.
It may be possible with keyframes..but that'd take a lot of time.
If its needed for a mod or sp map (that runs with a mod) I could help. |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 12th Sep 2005 9:13am |
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A real working escalator? It's a challenge but I reckon it's quite possible...  |
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| Terry_X |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 11:51am |
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with a button u push to make it move... hell yea.. |
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| Predalienator |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 12:15pm |
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This is juat experimentel and i aint good at movers but why not just make the long brush like a conveyer belt and then make it extrude?And put 2 keyframes.Maybe it,ll work but 99% not maybe.  |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 12:41pm |
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| Quoting Predalienator | | This is juat experimentel and i aint good at movers but why not just make the long brush like a conveyer belt and then make it extrude?And put 2 keyframes.Maybe it,ll work but 99% not maybe. |
Perhaps even 100% not maybe 
You need to create something like this...
Obviously this (quick) diagram only shows one of the stairs moving round the escalator, but if you can achieve this in a loop infinite fashion then you can easily add another 15 or so. That's the only way I can see of doing things. |
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| Predalienator |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 1:54pm |
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I suck with movers even doors wont open for me  |
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| adambehrend |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 4:30pm |
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I think you could make it without keyframes, simply use a push region with the mass independant and grounded flags checeked, set the power to about 5.
also using a scrolling texture would make it look better... so why use all these keyframes if you can create the same effect with this time and effort? |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 5:22pm |
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| Quoting adambehrend | I think you could make it without keyframes, simply use a push region with the mass independant and grounded flags checeked, set the power to about 5.
also using a scrolling texture would make it look better... so why use all these keyframes if you can create the same effect with this time and effort? |
Yeah that's fair enough, that's the simplest way to attack it... BUT He actually wanted to create real moving stairs, just like an escalator 
I've just given it a try and it certainly isn't as easy as it looks... it's also quite prone to killing you  |
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| goober |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 6:22pm | |
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yeah mysterisly, you would need 2 sets of stairs so that when one is going thorugh the other one is behind so that you never have a time where theres no stairs... it would take about 40 movers just for 1 escalator.. |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 13th Sep 2005 7:50pm |
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| Quoting goober | | it would take about 40 movers just for 1 escalator.. |
easily... |
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| KERPAL |
Posted 14th Sep 2005 3:31am | |
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Ive tried the texture scroll rate all ready, but when I do that only the textures move and the stairs themselves dont Man, this sounds alot more complicated than I thought it would be 
Maybe what you could do is make a bunch of wedges for the steps of the stairs and make them move at once when you push a switch, I dunno just a thought |
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