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ExoStatic   Posted 26th Jul 2005 1:30pm
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Post 311 / 875

ITCH, this mod basically makes it seem as though the player is out of the level. It means guns are un-usable.

You can fire, and the muzzle flash lights up, but no sound is played and no shot is fired.
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ENM   Posted 26th Jul 2005 1:51pm
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Post 142 / 1552

for those interested here is a log of the msn chat I had with (CC)Cam during the last weekend, (suitably edited to meet the site language requirements without losing the essence of the log)
Quoting (CC)Cam on MSN
[03:00:56 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: modding and rapid fire
[03:00:57 PM] CÅM™: rapid fire isnt a mod.... its a proggie called
'clickalot'
[03:01:20 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: I asked you about modding AND rapid
[03:01:30 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you said nope....never
[03:02:59 PM] CÅM™: well thats true for the CC server.... but i have
used the jammin mod which just shoots lots of remotes to
stop all people (including yourself) from shootin
[03:03:22 PM] CÅM™: so it dont effect scores.....
[03:03:23 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so you lied to me
[03:03:43 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: do you know how annoying that mod is?
[03:03:55 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: do you know how much it spoils a game
[03:04:08 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: do you know that I have banned Pimp for
dsoing that
[03:04:20 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: modding is modding
[03:04:38 PM] CÅM™: lol..... u SURE it was PIMP only ?? lol
[03:05:05 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i now know it was you as well and I may
have banned someone else for no reason
[03:05:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: Play "Wink"


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| Session Start: Sunday, 24 July 2005 |
| Participants: |
| «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ (philpyd@hotmail.com) |
| CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** (cam_rocks@tsn.cc) |
.--------------------------------------------------------------------.
[08:33:00 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you guys been in Swift I see
[08:33:17 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: ????????????
[08:33:29 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: throwing your jammin mods
[08:33:42 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you, Chris and savvy
[08:34:14 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: hmmmm...when chris was in there that was
me ... lol
[08:34:28 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: with the mines?
[08:34:42 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: no with the THQ jam lol
[08:34:49 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: thanx
[08:34:56 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: why?
[08:35:35 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: givin the mod a loooooooong test
[08:35:54 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: yeah right you will be banned from any
server you try to join mate
[08:36:19 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you just proved yourself as bad as the
rest of CC
[08:36:58 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: lol
[08:38:52 PM] * CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** is now Offline
[08:40:22 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so is it still running
[08:40:22 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ so is it still running


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| Session Start: Sunday, 24 July 2005 |
| Participants: |
| «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ (philpyd@hotmail.com) |
| CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** (cam_rocks@tsn.cc) |
| ChR?S (bigchris206@hotmail.com) |
.--------------------------------------------------------------------.
[10:27:25 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: HEHEUP.HAHALAUGH ME ***** CENSORED
OFF!HAHAUP.HEHE
[10:27:39 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: whats so funny
[10:27:40 PM] ChR?S: why ua dd that c**t
[10:27:57 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: ubeen in RF lately??
[10:28:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: why?
[10:28:38 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: duno
[10:28:46 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: just felt like saying it lol
[10:28:55 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: oh ok
[10:29:15 PM] CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** has left the
conversation.


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| Session Start: Sunday, 24 July 2005 |
| Participants: |
| «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ (philpyd@hotmail.com) |
| CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** (cam_rocks@tsn.cc) |
.--------------------------------------------------------------------.

[10:41:55 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so who were ypu playing as
[10:42:24 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:42:35 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:42:50 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:01 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:43:06 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:12 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:43:15 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:19 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:43:25 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:34 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: Itch has your IP doesnt he?
[10:43:43 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: I think so
[10:43:47 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: ok
[10:43:58 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by PIMP
[10:44:14 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: hahahah i knew he was in there
[10:44:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: i didn't lol
[10:44:49 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: his name was sniper of something like
that
[10:45:03 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so have you turned it off
[10:45:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: i have no idea....... this is becomming a
HUGE network of server F*****RS... LOL
[10:45:40 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: yeah you have f***ed the game for me
completely
[10:46:12 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: dude y would u play in those junky servers
when u got ya own ultra-fast one??
[10:46:22 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i dont have a server
[10:46:31 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i cant join any servers
[10:46:45 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: my tracker is empty
[10:46:45 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: Itchs Nasty server is yours
[10:46:57 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i dont have any access to the tracker
[10:47:03 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so how can I join it
[10:47:06 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: ????
[10:47:22 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: wot..... did i F**K up THQ too?
[10:47:25 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i am a member of EG and we have a war
tomorrow night
[10:47:30 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: yep
[10:47:53 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i may as well uninstall RF
[10:48:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: hmmmmmm
[10:48:26 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: thnx heaps
[10:48:52 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: dude how can THQ be DOWN?
[10:49:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: dunno but there are a few people
complaining about it
[10:49:30 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: i can still get to the tracker..... its
YOUR pc
[10:49:31 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so which servers have you attacked then
[10:49:54 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i could only get my favbourites
[10:50:00 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe:
1...2...3......4....5.........6...............7.........
...........8....................9...................heap
s
[10:50:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you c**ts
[10:50:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: HEHE BRB
[10:50:30 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: f***k off sh*thead
[10:50:45 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: for a while

this has only been edited to leave out some of the objectionable words, all other conversation is as originally typed back and forth, during this interchange he sent me a screenshot taken by one of them of me informing the server who was responsible, my apologies if I have missed any language in this post
Look behind u Nasty People are everywhere
9 out of 10 of the voices in my head are telling me "DON'T SHOOT"
The True Galactic Lord  
 
ExoStatic   Posted 26th Jul 2005 2:22pm
L4Y Member
Post 313 / 875

Good info but your post will more than likely be edited as you don't have permission to post the MSN quotes? It's against the rules to post private conversations without the permission of the other user.

But otherwise, good info to know.
Back in RF... getting back into the swing of things!    
goober   Posted 26th Jul 2005 2:25pm
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Post 188 / 265

Quoting ExoStatic
Good info but your post will more than likely be edited as you don't have permission to post the MSN quotes? It's against the rules to post private conversations without the permission of the other user.

But otherwise, good info to know.



if i recall correctally, CAM isnt a l4y user
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ExoStatic   Posted 26th Jul 2005 2:50pm
L4Y Member
Post 314 / 875

Who cares, he still has rights to privacy.
Back in RF... getting back into the swing of things!    
E_Darkness   Posted 26th Jul 2005 3:20pm
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Post 54 / 338

nice going A Hole Now more people can do that kind of mod..
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some one should delete your post.
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Quote

for those interested here is a log of the msn chat I had with (CC)Cam during the last weekend, (suitably edited to meet the site language requirements without losing the essence of the log)
Quoting (CC)Cam on MSN
[03:00:56 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: modding and rapid fire
[03:00:57 PM] CÅM™: rapid fire isnt a mod.... its a proggie called
'clickalot'
[03:01:20 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: I asked you about modding AND rapid
[03:01:30 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you said nope....never
[03:02:59 PM] CÅM™: well thats true for the CC server.... but i have
used the jammin mod which just shoots lots of remotes to
stop all people (including yourself) from shootin
[03:03:22 PM] CÅM™: so it dont effect scores.....
[03:03:23 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so you lied to me
[03:03:43 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: do you know how annoying that mod is?
[03:03:55 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: do you know how much it spoils a game
[03:04:08 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: do you know that I have banned Pimp for
dsoing that
[03:04:20 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: modding is modding
[03:04:38 PM] CÅM™: lol..... u SURE it was PIMP only ?? lol
[03:05:05 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i now know it was you as well and I may
have banned someone else for no reason
[03:05:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: Play "Wink"


.--------------------------------------------------------------------.
| Session Start: Sunday, 24 July 2005 |
| Participants: |
| «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ (philpyd@hotmail.com) |
| CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** (cam_rocks@tsn.cc) |
.--------------------------------------------------------------------.
[08:33:00 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you guys been in Swift I see
[08:33:17 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: ????????????
[08:33:29 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: throwing your jammin mods
[08:33:42 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you, Chris and savvy
[08:34:14 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: hmmmm...when chris was in there that was
me ... lol
[08:34:28 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: with the mines?
[08:34:42 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: no with the THQ jam lol
[08:34:49 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: thanx
[08:34:56 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: why?
[08:35:35 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: givin the mod a loooooooong test
[08:35:54 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: yeah right you will be banned from any
server you try to join mate
[08:36:19 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you just proved yourself as bad as the
rest of CC
[08:36:58 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: lol
[08:38:52 PM] * CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** is now Offline
[08:40:22 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so is it still running
[08:40:22 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ so is it still running


.--------------------------------------------------------------------.
| Session Start: Sunday, 24 July 2005 |
| Participants: |
| «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ (philpyd@hotmail.com) |
| CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** (cam_rocks@tsn.cc) |
| ChR?S (bigchris206@hotmail.com) |
.--------------------------------------------------------------------.
[10:27:25 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: HEHEUP.HAHALAUGH ME ***** Censored
OFF!HAHAUP.HEHE
[10:27:39 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: whats so funny
[10:27:40 PM] ChR?S: why ua dd that c**t
[10:27:57 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: ubeen in RF lately??
[10:28:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: why?
[10:28:38 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: duno
[10:28:46 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: just felt like saying it lol
[10:28:55 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: oh ok
[10:29:15 PM] CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** has left the
conversation.


.--------------------------------------------------------------------.
| Session Start: Sunday, 24 July 2005 |
| Participants: |
| «ThÈ NÀSTY ONȧ © ™ (philpyd@hotmail.com) |
| CÅM™ Teamspeak: ***.***.**.*** (cam_rocks@tsn.cc) |
.--------------------------------------------------------------------.

[10:41:55 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so who were ypu playing as
[10:42:24 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:42:35 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:42:50 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:01 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:43:06 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:12 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:43:15 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:19 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: who was he playing as
[10:43:25 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by BING
[10:43:34 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: Itch has your IP doesnt he?
[10:43:43 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: I think so
[10:43:47 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: ok
[10:43:58 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: that was a PIC by PIMP
[10:44:14 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: hahahah i knew he was in there
[10:44:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: i didn't lol
[10:44:49 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: his name was sniper of something like
that
[10:45:03 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so have you turned it off
[10:45:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: i have no idea....... this is becomming a
HUGE network of server F*****RS... LOL
[10:45:40 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: yeah you have f***ed the game for me
completely
[10:46:12 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: dude y would u play in those junky servers
when u got ya own ultra-fast one??
[10:46:22 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i dont have a server
[10:46:31 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i cant join any servers
[10:46:45 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: my tracker is empty
[10:46:45 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: Itchs Nasty server is yours
[10:46:57 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i dont have any access to the tracker
[10:47:03 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so how can I join it
[10:47:06 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: ????
[10:47:22 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: wot..... did i F**K up THQ too?
[10:47:25 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i am a member of EG and we have a war
tomorrow night
[10:47:30 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: yep
[10:47:53 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i may as well uninstall RF
[10:48:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: hmmmmmm
[10:48:26 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: thnx heaps
[10:48:52 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: dude how can THQ be DOWN?
[10:49:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: dunno but there are a few people
complaining about it
[10:49:30 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: i can still get to the tracker..... its
YOUR pc
[10:49:31 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: so which servers have you attacked then
[10:49:54 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: i could only get my favbourites
[10:50:00 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe:
1...2...3......4....5.........6...............7.........
...........8....................9...................heap
s
[10:50:09 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: you c**ts
[10:50:21 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: HEHE BRB
[10:50:30 PM] «ThÈ NÀSTY O: f***k off sh*thead
[10:50:45 PM] CÅM™ Teamspe: for a while

this has only been edited to leave out some of the objectionable words, all other conversation is as originally typed back and forth, during this interchange he sent me a screenshot taken by one of them of me informing the server who was responsible, my apologies if I have missed any language in this post
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ENM   Posted 26th Jul 2005 4:16pm
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Post 143 / 1552

Quoting E_Darkness
nice going A Hole Now more people can do that kind of mod..
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some one should delete your post.




where in the post does it say what the mod actually is or how to make it wake up,besides you just copied it so how smart are you and arent your the same person who IMed me last year?

Quoting goober
if i recall correctally, CAM isnt a l4y user


you remember correctly, he doesnt come here and why should he be protected by any rules , after all he had no concern at all for the enjoyment of all the RF gamers left out there
Look behind u Nasty People are everywhere
9 out of 10 of the voices in my head are telling me "DON'T SHOOT"
The True Galactic Lord  
 Modified Jul 26th, 04:55pm by ENM
Pack Hunter   Posted 26th Jul 2005 6:13pm
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Post 182 / 229

darkness you might want to actually read what was posted... and again thnx for the info enm
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind    
livnitup   Posted 26th Jul 2005 6:40pm
Welcome!
Post 2 / 2

If the c4 explosive was removed from server like the noob hmg patch, would that stop this exploit?
   
General_187   Posted 26th Jul 2005 7:27pm
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Post 182 / 496

Quoting ExoStatic
Good info but your post will more than likely be edited as you don't have permission to post the MSN quotes? It's against the rules to post private conversations without the permission of the other user.

But otherwise, good info to know.


Actually ... I think ENM's post is fine! It is concerning to the community of RF and not a bunch of other BS! Yours that I had edited... was from a L4Y User, Did not have any point, and was just stirring up stuff around the forums!
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ExoStatic   Posted 26th Jul 2005 7:36pm
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Post 315 / 875

It may have appeared to be from an L4Y user, but it wasn't

It was that idiot annoying people UNDER SKIPRATS NAME. But anyway, that's been and gone now.

He may have been, well, a c**t but he still has his rights.. but I suppose that it's useful info.
Back in RF... getting back into the swing of things!    
General_187   Posted 26th Jul 2005 7:48pm
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Post 183 / 496

Quoting ExoStatic
It may have appeared to be from an L4Y user, but it wasn't

It was that idiot annoying people UNDER SKIPRATS NAME. But anyway, that's been and gone now.

He may have been, well, a c**t but he still has his rights.. but I suppose that it's useful info.


HEHE... yes.. you can see what kind of attitude the person has! Thats why we just need to ban them on the spot... b/c if they are really that relentless... then there will be a lot of servers screwed over.. its just further evidence to convince those that have not yet been convinced!
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Animator   Posted 26th Jul 2005 8:20pm
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Post 3 / 354

Some dude entered several servers saturday. Cause we have
a real close network to several server on RF we found out
who caused the trouble fast. He played whith the c4 trick
to lame servers. After i banned him the trouble was over.

This happened before in 2003 somewhere, i doubt its the same
dude , but anyway .. best thing is just ban him than ur problem
is over.

   
Pack Hunter   Posted 26th Jul 2005 11:00pm
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Post 185 / 229

getting rid of the c4 would get some rf players poed which we really dont need
We will be known by the tracks we leave behind    
Vidi44   Posted 26th Jul 2005 11:21pm
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Post 33 / 668

Ok, as far as I'm concerned, the CC crew lost its rights to privacy when it did this. Felons lose their rights as soon as they are convicted, and we have enough evidence to "convict" the CC members involved. Thus, I consider their rights to be a non-issue.

Also, from how I read it, it sounds more like an actual illegal event, than simply harmless modding. My supposition is that they remotly modify the server's base runtimes (similar to the server crashers who pull the server info, convert it to Assembly, modify it, and reinstall the server with the new code (which is highly illegal to do in the commercial world)). Simply, they hacked the servers and rewrote their code.

This is an actual IT nightmare and is highly illegal. Whenever they are stopped, it would be wise to consult a lawyer about really suing them (virtual justice can only go so far, but when real judges pass real sentences, they'll definately learn). This attack is an infringement of Chapter 47 (Fraud and False Statements) in Part 1 of Title 18 (Crimes and Criminal Procedure) of the US Code Annotated. This is found under 18 U.S.C. § 1030. Fraud and Related Activity in Connection with Computers, a law proposed and passed by the United States Supreme Court (well, Congress passed it).

Read this nice quote: "(5)(A)(i) knowingly causes the transmission of a program, information, code, or command, and as a result of such conduct, intentionally causes damage without authorization, to a protected computer;". What this means is that they have violated the law by modifying and damaging the RF server code. The fact that they disabled weapons is obvious of this destruction, as the original code does not allow for the disabling of weapons in multiplayer. Having realized this, we presume that it is further possible that they have damaged the RF kernel, perhaps permanently. That being said, we have a nice case that could be prevented to a magestrate, who could co-ordinate between international agencies. I'd predict our chances of actually convicting them to be about 20% right now, however, if we gather their IPs, and possibly can get a court order to check their computers for this malicious code (and verify it), we have a 80% chance of conviction. However, I don't know how US law would apply internationally. However, I'd presume Australia would have a similar law. However, that is a non-issue, as the occurances have occured mostly on US soil, so they could be extradited to the US to face their charges. Too bad none of us has the money for a lawyer...
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