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| Red Faction : [RED] Editing : Nothing works NORMAL in Red |
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  Posted 20th Dec 2004 10:12pm |
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So why was there so much high praise for this big-wig editor when Red was shipped with the Game when there are so many abnormal things in it that the authors of this editor didn't fix ?, has anyone tried to ask Violition nicely to fix up the troubles that exist in Red? THey made it , they can fix up some of these abnormal things this editor does. |
| Red limits breached?, Yep, (20,000 fces and its still going !) |
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Posted 20th Dec 2004 10:31pm |
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You must not know THQ very well then....Let me give you a clue.Anti-THQ
THQ will do NOTHING unless it includes them making more money. |
| "Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006 |
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| Quoting sobe | | THQ will do NOTHING unless it includes them making more money. |
Why would they, the game is old. Just be glad they still have the tracker on and we can still play the game without us giving each other the IP or setting up a tracker of our own. If they were still making money on it, I would understand your complaints. |
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Posted 20th Dec 2004 11:10pm |
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Arrghhh ! How are we gonna patch up the problems that exist in the Red Editor even just to make editing alot more FRIENDLY!, oh heck, I don't think we can fix it without the source code !!
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| Red limits breached?, Yep, (20,000 fces and its still going !) |
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| Kiliad |
Posted 20th Dec 2004 11:33pm |
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Despite its many bugs and omissions, many very good maps have been made with RED.
Also it is one of the easiest editors to use even when taking into account those bugs.
I've tried the Unreal editor and FarCry;s Sandbox as well as that Radiant one. They are way to complicated for me to handle.
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| Pickles |
Posted 20th Dec 2004 11:41pm |
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The chances of them releasing the source anytime soon is remote. Sure there's always a chance, be it remote. |
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| LyNx |
Posted 20th Dec 2004 11:51pm |
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if thq doesnt want anything to do with red faction then why not just give everything for it to violation? |
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| sobe |
Posted 20th Dec 2004 11:51pm |
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The revolution is here.We must strike back against THQ.We are all that are left of the nano technologically created THQ army.We must rise up and take back what is ours.THQ saw what they had created.And they feared it.They ordered us destroyed by showing no support for Red Faction.We are allied with Corpses-Inc and Weird.Together we must rise up against this tyrany.Together.We can defeat the CommonWealthTHQ revolution. |
| "Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006 |
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| Pickles |
Posted 21st Dec 2004 4:08am |
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| Quoting sobe | The revolution is here.We must strike back against THQ.We are all that are left of the nano technologically created THQ army.We must rise up and take back what is ours.THQ saw what they had created.And they feared it.They ordered us destroyed by showing no support for Red Faction.We are allied with Corpses-Inc and Weird.Together we must rise up against this tyrany.Together.We can defeat the CommonWealthTHQ revolution. |
CENSORED you talking about sobe?    |
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| sobe |
Posted 21st Dec 2004 5:42pm |
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Hmmm....You haven't played RF2 yet then have you... |
| "Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006 |
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| Mighty Mike |
Posted 21st Dec 2004 6:07pm |
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You know, I don't meant to sound rude, but I've encountered many "I hate RED" people, and had a look at many a-map they had created. I can say that practically all problems come from the mapper's mistakes. Bat technique, thoughtlessness and lack fo will to ever read tutorials are what's "wrong with RED".
Thsi doesn't take the blame off THQ for ignoring Red Faction, but my point is you should stop being so needy. Neither Volition nor THQ will make you a knowledgeable mapper. |
| ◄ Mike | Codename: Iron Sun for RF ► |
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| ENM |
Posted 23rd Dec 2004 5:40am |
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| Quoting Mighty Mike | You know, I don't meant to sound rude, but I've encountered many "I hate RED" people, and had a look at many a-map they had created. I can say that practically all problems come from the mapper's mistakes. Bat technique, thoughtlessness and lack fo will to ever read tutorials are what's "wrong with RED".
Thsi doesn't take the blame off THQ for ignoring Red Faction, but my point is you should stop being so needy. Neither Volition nor THQ will make you a knowledgeable mapper. |
Mike I totally agree with you, I spent over a year playing with Red, getting frustrated and annoyed cause all these guys, most of them young enough to be my sons or daughters some even young enough to be my grandchildren, making these wonderful maps and me still struggling. Put the thing away vowing never to open it again lots of times. All it really took was a bit of encouragement from my RF mates and 'Lotsa' (sic) guidance from a mapping God and here I am, a quite respectable first map, released as part of the Weird Map Pack just last month.(DM-WMP-Hoops) Just stick with it, take your time, some things cant be done lots of things can if you go the right way about it. Trial and error is the key.
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Look behind u Nasty People are everywhere
9 out of 10 of the voices in my head are telling me "DON'T SHOOT"
The True Galactic Lord |
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| Molodiets |
Posted 23rd Dec 2004 10:38am |
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| Quoting Mighty Mike | You know, I don't meant to sound rude, but I've encountered many "I hate RED" people, and had a look at many a-map they had created. I can say that practically all problems come from the mapper's mistakes. Bat technique, thoughtlessness and lack fo will to ever read tutorials are what's "wrong with RED".
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If we were good mappers, feeling confortable with editors, we would map for UT2004 or half-life II.
Even thou there have been and still are (more scarcely) good mappers working with RED, face the fact that we map for RF because we're either unable to map for another FPS or too lazy or impatient to learn to handle another editor.
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Modified Dec 23rd, 10:38am by Molodiets |
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Posted 24th Dec 2004 10:27am |
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| Quoting molodiets | | Quoting Mighty Mike | You know, I don't meant to sound rude, but I've encountered many "I hate RED" people, and had a look at many a-map they had created. I can say that practically all problems come from the mapper's mistakes. Bat technique, thoughtlessness and lack fo will to ever read tutorials are what's "wrong with RED".
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If we were good mappers, feeling confortable with editors, we would map for UT2004 or half-life II.
Even thou there have been and still are (more scarcely) good mappers working with RED, face the fact that we map for RF because we're either unable to map for another FPS or too lazy or impatient to learn to handle another editor.
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Molo I dont agree with that, I have looked at other editors but those belong to games that I do not play.. I am mapping for RF because that is my game of choice. i enjoy playing Rf, I enjoy the community behind and because of RF and I enjoy the friends and aquaintences I have made in RF. I am not unable or too lazy to learn another editor, I am not too impatient to learn another editor, I just dont want too, and I think i probably speak for a lot of the more prolific mappers in RF. We do it because we love what RF has given us and we want to give something back, and also in an attempt to keep it together |
Look behind u Nasty People are everywhere
9 out of 10 of the voices in my head are telling me "DON'T SHOOT"
The True Galactic Lord |
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