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| Red Faction : [RED] Editing : RED_my map will crash :x |
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| dankone |
  Posted 5th May 2005 6:24pm |
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i cant seeem to figure out why, but if i try, i can crash my map.  the build report is | Quote | Chopping portal: 11/11
Cleaning final geometry...
Building rooms...
Fixing up texture uvs for ps2...
Had to add 0 faces to fix ps2 tiling.
Fixing any t-joints...
Fixed 111 t-joints.
Checking for holes...
Found 0 holes
Brushes: 364
Portals: 11
Rooms: 235
Faces: 6322/10500
Face Vertices: 28845/50400
Vertices: 8279/13650
Rays recast: 4/8815
Timings:
Booleans: 2.116 s
Removing Bogus Solids: 0.289 s
Room creation: 0.329 s
Other: 0.737 s
Total time: 3.471 s
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and the pack file build is: | Quote | Creating Packfile...
File List:
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\multi\DM_munchkintest2.rfl
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Grass256.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\OZ_rbrickblur.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesDN.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesUP.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesFT.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesBK.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesRT.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesLFT.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wall-white.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\munchkinroof3.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\brick1_7.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\ivy3.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wonka-plant1.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flower-A1-yellow.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flower-A1-white-pink.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flower-A1-darkblue.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\springpurple.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\gls_LightGRN.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\twigs_1.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\rwood1_15b&w.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\roof12.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\rwood1_15b&wW.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wood61B&W.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Wallpaper62_1_abb&w.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Wallpaper62-concrete-ab&w.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\gls_Kansasb&w.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\window53.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Door50c_B&W.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\scary_wood1_3.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wagonwheel.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\bw_shortpost_base1_2.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\ybrickblur.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\dirt_wall4_1.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flowerpedal.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\plasticleaf2.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\plasticgreen2.tga
C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\OZ-brickroadswirl.tga
38 files.
Writing header...
Writing files...
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\multi\DM_munchkintest2.rfl
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Grass256.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\OZ_rbrickblur.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesDN.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesUP.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesFT.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesBK.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesRT.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\A1-treesLFT.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wall-white.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\munchkinroof3.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\brick1_7.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\ivy3.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wonka-plant1.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flower-A1-yellow.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flower-A1-white-pink.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flower-A1-darkblue.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\springpurple.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\gls_LightGRN.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\twigs_1.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\rwood1_15b&w.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\roof12.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\rwood1_15b&wW.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wood61B&W.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Wallpaper62_1_abb&w.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Wallpaper62-concrete-ab&w.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\gls_Kansasb&w.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\window53.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\Door50c_B&W.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\scary_wood1_3.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\wagonwheel.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\bw_shortpost_base1_2.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\ybrickblur.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\dirt_wall4_1.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\flowerpedal.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\plasticleaf2.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\plasticgreen2.tga
Adding C:\games\RedFaction\user_maps\textures\OZ-brickroadswirl.tga
Packfile size:
12472320 bytes
Done! |
anyone see anything in there that might cause an instability in the map?
its level properties are set at 100 for the geo, but i do have a few geo regions that are needed. if you work at them pretty hard, parts of the floor go invisible, until you crash out to desktop.
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| ExoStatic |
Posted 5th May 2005 6:34pm |
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It's just some CENSORED [Censored] RF engine bug. I get this sometimes, and it comes at random, I have no idea how it can be fixed other than to ... well pray... or.. turn off geo all together |
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| dankone |
Posted 5th May 2005 7:05pm |
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well. i just went through, and cut the geo regions WAY back.(to minimal size) im still able to crash the somnabatch  i even pulled out the main portal in the map. same thing. i cant figure this one out. prolly gonna have to remove the geo completely in order for the level to be stable.  not something i wanna do. |
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| RF Grim Reaper |
Posted 5th May 2005 7:47pm |  |
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Try removing those.
As for parts disappearing, I've seen that happen before ( like in the lunar landing map for RFU3 ) I don't really know the cause, RF can't seem to render the brushes which would make me think that you tried to geo a brush that has alot of faces already.
This is just a guess but I think RF must have a limit as to how many faces a brush can have in-game. The number obviously goes up when you geo... 
Geo crashes are usually due to PS2s I find, T-joints are also a problem though. try and find them and remove as many as possible.
A way of trouble shooting would be to only have one small geo region and test to see if it will crash is geo'd alot. If not, make another and try that until you get a crash. Move them around and find the problem areas. |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 5th May 2005 9:00pm |
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Yeah, it's always better to set the levelt hardness to 100 and then place geo regions where you want them. The geo should be a lot more stable and less prone to crashage that way 
Get the infinite fast rocket mod for quick geo testing too |
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| dankone |
Posted 5th May 2005 9:17pm |
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| Quote | | I've seen that happen before ( like in the lunar landing map for RFU3 ) |
really? me and plenty of people took rockets to that map over and over again prior to release. never had a crash, or any brush oddities. thats freaking weird.  |
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| Johnny_Suave |
Posted 5th May 2005 9:44pm |
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| Quoting RF Grim Reaper | Geo crashes are usually due to PS2s I find, T-joints are also a problem though. try and find them and remove as many as possible.
A way of trouble shooting would be to only have one small geo region and test to see if it will crash is geo'd alot. If not, make another and try that until you get a crash. Move them around and find the problem areas. |
That sound like a pretty good idea. |
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| dankone |
Posted 5th May 2005 11:45pm |
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ok. first off, i already posted this about 10 minutes ago, and it didnt show. 
well, ive removed everything from my map. one bye one. still crashes all the way up until i get to the point where i have an empty room with a skybox. ive tried removing just groups of stuff, and one item at a time. EVERYTHING crashes this map. ive also gone so far as to create a group of everything and put it into a new main brush without the skybox. still crashes. im about to remove RED from my pc and never map again.
the real bummer is that this is the map i had a really good test on the other day, and we found the gameplay to be quite fun.
LLAME!!! |
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| RF Grim Reaper |
Posted 6th May 2005 12:44am | |
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Could have just been my graphics card with the lunar map but most of it vanished
Thats very strange that it crashes with just an empty room. Could be something to do with the actual rfl then 
As a last resort you could always have no geo ( I know it's a downer ) |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 6th May 2005 12:53am |
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Stupid question, but you didn't accidentally blow a hole into the skybox did ya? |
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NoClanFrank  |
Posted 6th May 2005 2:16am | |
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| Quoting mad_ferrit | | Yeah, it's always better to set the levelt hardness to 100 and then place geo regions where you want them. The geo should be a lot more stable and less prone to crashage that way |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 6th May 2005 2:28am |
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Wanna elaborate on that? |
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| Johnny_Suave |
Posted 6th May 2005 3:15am |
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Ya really. |
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| General_187 |
Posted 6th May 2005 3:35am |
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| dankone |
Posted 6th May 2005 4:40am |
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| Quoting mad_ferrit | | Stupid question, but you didn\'t accidentally blow a hole into the skybox did ya? |
yeah. it kinda does look like im breaking into the skybox just before it crashes. why?
oh, and originally, i did have the map at hardness100, and then put in my geo regions. after the first crash, i tried all variations of the two. believe me, i tried everything i could think of. but...hell, im no pro. especially when it comes to portaling and lighting. |
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| NoClanFrank |
Posted 6th May 2005 6:07am | |
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| Quoting mad_ferrit | | Wanna elaborate on that? |
No... |
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