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Turbo_Man   Posted 25th Feb 2010 2:26am
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Well I am not sure who actually runs this server but with a game that almost dead it is sad to see the rcon holder of this server ban people for simply being better than they are. name he was using was asg. I think he is a member here. If anyone knows this little noob tell him he needs to learn how to play the game before he starts accusing people of cheating. He sucks as a player and as a judge of a players skill.
   
goober   Posted 25th Feb 2010 2:41am
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Quoting asg
im asg and i banned you because i had several ppl telling me that you were modding

I honestly cannot explain to you how often "several people" are wrong. I see cheating accusations against players I know for a fact are clean daily.

Hint: NEVER ban anyone for cheating without first seeing solid PROOF (IE. not "you're doing too good to be legit!!!111") yourself.


EDIT: Having said that, I know nothing about this specific case. He may have been cheating - I don't know. My point is check first, don't just believe people when they claim it.
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goober   Posted 25th Feb 2010 2:47am
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I can too - I just have to reboot my router. (I have a dynamic IP) That doesn't mean I'm cheating
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ENM   Posted 25th Feb 2010 11:02am
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I always spectate any player accused of modding so that I can actually see evidence and prove it to myself, never ever go on heresay. Best to give the benefit of doubt unless proven. With pf running it is easy to check.
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NoClanFrank    Posted 25th Feb 2010 1:18pm
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Same here or unless all the people who are on Team Speak say that "the person", I mean "player" is cheating.
The server I play at many times will ask the player to remove the cheats and come back. If they are cheating real bad (multiple rockets or rapid fire) that makes the game unplayable, then he/sh/it will get an automatic ban/kick.
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Spikey2005   Posted 25th Feb 2010 1:23pm
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I would agree with what asg is saying. The guy can clearly change his IP address in 2 seconds. Goober, you rebooting your router takes roughly 20 - 30 seconds. If someone was going to that lengh just to get back into a server, and has the ability to change their IP address, or came onto the server with a fake IP in the first place, I would too immediately ban them for it.

asg, I agree with what you are saying. Also, the next question is, was the player !ME! using PureFaction. Did he have a gold P next to his name in the tab menu? If he did not and was using ordinary RF, then I would suspect a cheater too.
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Spikey2005   Posted 25th Feb 2010 5:06pm
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Well it could be, or it couldn't be. I could create a server in RF and you could join but under a different name, and I would have no idea that it is you. My statement is not based upon who it is, its based on that who ever was banned, managed to rejoin multiple times as asg says.

But to argue your point, why did Turbo_Man create this thread in the first place. was he doing it for himself? or for a friend, I do not know. And no one is presuming it is Turbo_Man anyways, Yet.
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goober   Posted 25th Feb 2010 8:40pm
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Quoting Spikey2005
and has the ability to change their IP address, or came onto the server with a fake IP in the first place, I would too immediately ban them for it.

Why? If the guy isn't cheating in the first place, there'd be no need for him to change his IP.


Likewise, if someone is using a fake IP in a server, but not cheating why does it matter?
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ENM   Posted 25th Feb 2010 10:21pm
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Quoting asg
turboman = ME and also used the name Nick and Default

the screenshot i took because i saw what was going on in the comments but i didnt have time to deal with it then so i took a screenshot to look at it later

no changing your ip is not a cheat but if youve gone through the trouble of setting something up so you can change it rapidly it doesnt look good and it was a red flag not the reason i banned him

multiple ppl accused him of cheating so i took a closer look at him then i played against him then i banned him and he kept coming back in with different ip adds about 10 times in less than 2 minutes and "A Noob" was one of the ppl to accuse him of cheating and also "oee" they usually dont accuse ppl so it wasnt just ONE thing it was several things that were suspicious and instead of going off on me all he had to do was ask me for my email address to talk about this in private and i wouldnt have had a problem i might not of even banned him but his attitude was the MAJOR problem

good comments just realized i didnt make these things clear with the first posts

Would be better if you had a screenshot that actually showed evidence of what you say. No comments were made by !ME! at all on that shot and it looks as though a nOOb had left before !ME! joined. maybe the server log would have more info. Did you actually spectate his actions in the PF menu?
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ENM   Posted 26th Feb 2010 7:41am
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what was he actually doing to cheat when you played against him, flying, ghosting or just very good?
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Lace    Posted 26th Feb 2010 11:24am
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Quoting ENM
just very good?

A good description of Turbo_Man
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ENM   Posted 27th Feb 2010 7:09am
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Quoting Lace
Quoting ENM
just very good?

A good description of Turbo_Man

I know I played against him yesterday,
Got his side of the story and saw him in action.
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