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| jkillian86 |
  Posted 17th Apr 2009 5:30am |
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I building my first custom computer everything was going fine until i put a new radeon 4830hd sapphire gfx card into it. Then I was playing cod5 and suddenly shut off and I smelled burning, the power supply fried it was 580w. So i replaced it with a 1000w and now all the led lights and fans are running properly but it doesnt boot up, i get nothing on the monitor its just a black screen i dont hear any beeps or sounds. So i tryed taking out my new gfx card thinkin i fried that also but still same problem if anyone can help me it would be greatly appreciated.
my specs
amd phenom quad core
integrated radeon 3200hd
gskill ram 4gig
1000watt powersupply
foxcon motherboard
680g harddrive
radeon 4830hd sapphire gfx |
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KILLER  |
Posted 17th Apr 2009 6:37am |
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Sounds like something fried for sure. IMO, probably the processor. Another thing it could have fried is the HDD. Open it up and you can smell each individual thing and find out what's burnt up. I deal with electronics on a daily basis, you will know what burnt electronics smells like.  |
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| sobe |
Posted 17th Apr 2009 7:16am |
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Sounds to me like you used a cheap power supply that had no overvolt protection and it fried your mobo. |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 17th Apr 2009 10:15am |  |
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First, KILLER is wrong on both things.
CPU doesn't fry that easily anymore. It has a temperature control. The Phenoms are one of the most modern ones, these just downclock and undervoltage if temp becomes critical.
You cannot even kill CPUs that are running without heatsinks anymore at all.
(all that aside, CoD5 doesn't heat up cpu that much at all lol Puts only extreme heat on GPU)
A dead HDD doesn't matter, the system will try to boot anyway.
He said the bios doesn't give any beep signals, this for sure says that it's not a HDD fault.
jkillian86, look in your mainboard manual if you can see a list of beepsounds. Well usually the "not beeping" is not listed because it could be everything, but just look. 
Now, not beeping either means: A part on the mainboard is dead. Maybe the PCIe port, maybe the northbridge, maybe the onboard gfx chip or a capacitor. I assume that you weren't playing with the mainboard cooling, right?
It can also most likely be that your graphics card is broken.
I know that no beeping definitely means, that the mainboard gets no signal from the PCIe slot. So either the card is broken, or a part on the mainboard that runs the PCIe port.
I recommend you to RESET THE BIOS first before you do/buy anyting.
You can archive that by removing the battery for a short time. Remove it from the mainboard for 20seconds to make sure. You can also use the CMOS jumper for that if you know what it is. After these 20secs put it back in, and try to boot the system WITHOUT the gfx card first, since you have mentioned the board has onboard graphics, the board will now try to use it. If it fails, try it with the graphics card. If this also fails you can try it with another graphics card, but thats kinda dangerous since you don't know if a broken mainboard could kill it. The problem is, you don't really seem to have a spare mainboard. Your only option then will be to return it and get a new one. >_>
Don't change the PSU yet. The mainboard could have had bad parts that just broke. CENSORED happens. |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 17th Apr 2009 6:19pm | |
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I agree with sobe and redfrog, sounds like a dead motherboard. A similar thing happened to me before, I would turn on the computer and there would be no beeps, no output to the screen, nothing, but all the fans and stuff would turn on, So I RMA'd my motherboard and when I plugged everything into the new one I got, everything worked fine.
If you want to see if it's the graphic card but don't want to risk sticking a working one in the broken computer, you could always try sticking the one from the broken computer into a working computer and see if it works. That's what I usually do If I want to see If a specifc part is broken, I usually try putting it into a computer that I know works and see if the computer still works with the part I want to test in it, and if it does then that part isn't broken. |
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| sobe |
Posted 17th Apr 2009 6:23pm |
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| Quoting REDFROG | First, KILLER is wrong on both things.
CPU doesn't fry that easily anymore. It has a temperature control. The Phenoms are one of the most modern ones, these just downclock and undervoltage if temp becomes critical.
You cannot even kill CPUs that are running without heatsinks anymore at all. |
I think you should take your Athlon64 6000+ and hook it up to a PowMax branded power supply, and within the hour when you hear it literally go pow, check your cpu on another motherboard. Overvoltage will kills your motherboard, cpu, RAM, and even vid card or anything else attached to PCI slots.
Killing a CPU isnt hard at all, once a Core2 reaches about the "suicide" limit of 1.5 volts, if it goes a bit above that to lets say 1.6(or 1.7).... it be dead.
I dunno the "suicide" voltage for the Phenoms, but nothing will help against a power supply dying and providing too much power for the parts(since it cannot regulate the power anymore). Only thing that CAN help is more or less on the PSU's side of things if it has overvolt protection to kill the current before reaching your parts.
But for his issue, I wouldn't jump to saying his CPU is dead... It may be, it may not be. Only way to tell is to test in another motherboard. |
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Posted 17th Apr 2009 7:16pm | |
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As already stated an overloading PSU is likely to have fried the motherboard. Seen it happen many a time...
Unless you're really unlucky it'll only be the motherboard itself. If you really did manage to properly blow it you might be looking at other dead bits, I've known one CPU to get taken out this way but then the overvoltage was so intense it literally blew a hole in the CPU as it exploded... lol
That was back in the days of pentium 3... so its rare... probably even more so with todays tech. |
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