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| Red Faction : [RED] Editing : Trying to make background transparent |
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  Posted 6th Mar 2009 11:24am |
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I have downloaded Paint Shop Pro 8 and found out how to make the background transparent.
(with the checkered background) But as soon as i go to save the actual texture.
All i get is just a solid white background showing up in the Red editor (even when rendering everything is turned on) so the transparency it hasn't worked.
First of all I load an image..
Then I set the Pallette Transparency to pallette entry 0 (Black). Not sure if its supposed to be selected to the current background color or what.
As soon as I do this, the color depth changes to 256 colors.....
Then Increase color depth to 16 million.
Now I click on the magic wand on the background and remove all of it. the parts of the background that I want to turn transparent.
Then I invert the selection, then under change selection modify, I set the pixle size to 1
Then I hit copy (ctrl-C)
then paste as new image
(Image shows up as a raster image now with all checkered background behind it to show the transparency.)
Then Save it as a 24 bit TGA file.
And that should've shown up as transparent in Red, but instead I get just get a white solid background where it should be black and transparent.
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Posted 6th Mar 2009 12:16pm |
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Just because the background is clear doesnt mean you have an alpha channel. you need to create and save an alpha "layer".
Not sure about how to on PSP8.
On the one I used to use (outdated) plus my head is a bit fuzzy....
go 'Layers'
Then 'Alpha Channel' "Create New" then choose an option like "from opacity, or "non-black" you can invert too to help. You can then edit it, Save it. Once the layer has been saved on to the image... THEN save it as a TGA. Check the help for advice on Alpha Channels.  |
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Posted 6th Mar 2009 12:29pm |
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Ok, its worked in the editor.... I saved the alpha channel then saved the TGA format.... The words of my image are now transparent. I forgot to invert it, but now I know how to do it.
Ok, second problem to solve.
There is a band of raster lines White, Purple, Red and Grey running across the very top of the texture ruining the transparency effect.
Now when I load the image into PSP, there are no raster lines showing.
I don't get it....  |
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| Spikey2005 |
Posted 6th Mar 2009 5:39pm |  |
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If you are going to be using Paint Shop Pro, I would advise you to downgrade to PSP7. PSP8 when saving TGA formats, seems to have a lot of bugs. You will end up seeing disorted colours on your textures in RED and Red Faction, however, PSP8 does not display them with disorted colours.
PSP7 is an older version that saves TGA's without the newly formatted way PSP8 does.
I have been using PSP7 for quite some time now and it has been no problem for me, I can do Alpha channels fine and everything. No disorted colours either.
Others might advise you to get Photo Shop and stuff, but what ever your comfortable with, go ahead  . |
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Modified Mar 6th, 05:39pm by Spikey2005 |
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Posted 6th Mar 2009 8:05pm |
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I've just found out that the Red Edtor cannot handle the new TGA format that PSP 8 saves the textures under. (Stupid program)..... It either comes out as a band of raster lines on the transparent texture, or it just only causes the editor to crash on me out to desktop even though the texture is 256 x 256.....
Red dosen't even recognize the new TGA format. |
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Posted 6th Mar 2009 8:20pm | |
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Didn't really read anything but you cannot use Paint Shop Pro 8 for TGA textures.
And thats not only for Red Faction.
You will have to use a second program, may it be a simplier program, or a converter etc, so you can save it as TGA again.
(create in Paintshop, save as TGA with alpha, open with another program that supports TGA, save it again.) |
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Posted 6th Mar 2009 8:28pm |
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What program do you suggest to save under as TGA again? I don't have photoshop.
I can't use Texture Maker. It just loads the image up as a solid white background under
that program. |
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| RF Grim Reaper |
Posted 6th Mar 2009 8:36pm | |
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Try using The Gimp.
Save the file without any compression (a dialog box asks you about compression when saving).
I use Gimp for all my textures in Stargate Mod **Shameless plug**  |
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Posted 7th Mar 2009 2:46am |
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Arghhh I downloaded Paint Shop pro 7
but the Installer is corrupt
I get the following error message
1152: error extracting
c ocument~1vetlocals~1Temp_is717PaShop Pro 7 Evaluation.msi
to the temporary location.
XP is not accepting the installation |
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| RF Grim Reaper |
Posted 7th Mar 2009 11:32am | |
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You'll have to d/l it again then
Did I mention Gimp is free |
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| Spikey2005 |
Posted 7th Mar 2009 2:35pm | |
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| Quoting Enforce | Arghhh I downloaded Paint Shop pro 7
but the Installer is corrupt
I get the following error message
1152: error extracting
cocument~1vetlocals~1Temp_is717PaShop Pro 7 Evaluation.msi
to the temporary location.
XP is not accepting the installation |
Even tho we do not support cracked version of software, I have on my computer a cracked and full working version of Paint Shop Pro 7. Enforcer, since I have you on msn, we can organise a time to send the software. |
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Posted 7th Mar 2009 5:32pm | |
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| Quoting Spikey2005 | | Quoting Enforce | Arghhh I downloaded Paint Shop pro 7
but the Installer is corrupt
I get the following error message
1152: error extracting
cocument~1vetlocals~1Temp_is717PaShop Pro 7 Evaluation.msi
to the temporary location.
XP is not accepting the installation |
Even tho we do not support cracked version of software, I have on my computer a cracked and full working version of Paint Shop Pro 7. Enforcer, since I have you on msn, we can organise a time to send the software. |
Rofl, there are better ways to say this on a public forum |
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