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| dan0411 |
  Posted 30th Apr 2008 7:17pm |
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I got a new dell computer. I was running red faction on my old computer just fine. But I noticed the new computer really runs it “choppy” Seams more apparent on close-up battles. A second or two delay.
Is there a setting I am missing at start-up or on properties? Inside the game I put everything really low, but no help.
Please help I want to get back to playing at work.
DELL
XP, SP2
Intel Core 2 CPU
2.16 GHZ, 2.00GB OF RAM
Quadro FX 350M Graphics |
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| goober |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 7:30pm |  |
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The dual core fix will most likely solve your problem. Are you running XP or Vista? |
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Posted 30th Apr 2008 8:03pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | Are you running XP or Vista? |
| Quoting dan0411 |
DELL
XP, SP2
Intel Core 2 CPU
2.16 GHZ, 2.00GB OF RAM
Quadro FX 350M Graphics |
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| Ghostkid |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 8:14pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | The dual core fix will most likely solve your problem. Are you running XP or Vista? |
Lol did you even look at the topic title ? 
"red faction / xp choppy" |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 8:19pm | |
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Today I planned to buy another 2 Gigs.
Then I remembered 4Gigs aren't possible on XP.
So I thought about getting Vista, because I'm also getting a new HD.
Now I found out not even Vista (32bit) supports 4GBs
CENSORED ?
If I was going with 64bit I'd have to be afraid in driver issues and unworkable games such as RF...or UT04... ?  I'd have to wait for the 64bit era if I wanted to upgrade ram, at that date a new windows will be available anyway.
So I bet you'll barely find games which require 4GB in near future.
But ram is so cheap I just want to buy it
Vista (32bit) supports up to 3GB. Also XP can do that but only by doing a trick, and I'm not sure if it really works.
sorry didn't want to start a new thread LOL
It's also good to know for everybody |
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| goober |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 8:19pm | |
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opps Assman, didn't see that one.
Ghostkid, I did yes, but I couldn't be sure if he was refering to his old PC or his new Dell one. |
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KILLER  |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 8:27pm |
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| Quoting REDFROG | Today I planned to buy another 2 Gigs.
Then I remembered 4Gigs aren't possible on XP.
So I thought about getting Vista, because I'm also getting a new HD.
Now I found out not even Vista (32bit) supports 4GBs
Censored ?
If I was going with 64bit I'd have to be afraid in driver issues and unworkable games such as RF...or UT04... ? I'd have to wait for the 64bit era if I wanted to upgrade ram, at that date a new windows will be available anyway.
So I bet you'll barely find games which require 4GB in near future.
But ram is so cheap I just want to buy it
Vista (32bit) supports up to 3GB. Also XP can do that but only by doing a trick, and I'm not sure if it really works.
sorry didn't want to start a new thread LOL
It's also good to know for everybody |
Should have done some research lol. Only the 64-bit will allow the 4GB of RAM to run as dual channel, 32 bit will force it to run in single channel I believe. |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 8:36pm | |
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I PLANNED to buy it. But I didn't
And it's not only a matter of dual channel or not. (I wouldn't care)
It's a matter of size limitation on 32bit systems. There is just no more than 3GB possible on 32bit.
There is a logical calculation behind this fact.
With 64bit the possible size increases like 1000 times higher. (well I dunno...but it can be MUCH greater. Vista Ultimate 64bit: 128GB+ )
I tried to find some websites which list PC games and the OS compatibilities. Most of them (vista64bit lists) are too small, and none list UT2004 neither UT3. And don't even think to find games games like RF in such "mainstream-gamers" lists.
oh I just read that for Vista 32bit users it is possible to upgrade to 64bit at a price of maybe around 15$ (11,85€ here)
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| Assman15 |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 8:46pm | |
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XP and Vista 32-bit both support up to 4GB of RAM. I think your sources may be wrong. |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 9:09pm | |
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The 64bit version of XP can hold and use 4Gb.
32bit does tolerate 4GB, but not use or show up, because of the 32bit architecture. Anything over 3GB would create "pageflips".
Same with Vista 32. It does run with 4GB but not use it.
google:
XP only 3GB
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4gb of ram xp only recognizes 3gb! - Tech Support Guy Forums
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Bootcamp 1.4 XP Pro-Only 3GB? - Mac Forums
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Installed 5gb of memory but XP only shows 3gb
How to hibernate XP with 4GB of RAM?
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I somehow cannot find a microsoft source with this data, so those user comments have to do it.
May it because they dont want to list negative aspects or ... I just cannot find it on their undetailed (=>user friendly) sites.
http://www.winvistaside.de/windows-vista-versionen-im-vergleich/
Vista comparision. (german)
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Maximal 4 GB werden von Windows Vista (32-Bit) unterstützt - genutzt werden können aber aufgrund von Beschränkungen nur 3 GB. |
translation: Vista 32bit supports max 4GB, but because of limitations only 3GB can be used |
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| Assman15 |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 9:45pm | |
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The full 4GB is recognized and used; not very well, but it's still used. |
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| RHF |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 10:25pm | |
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http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/server/PAE/PAEmem.mspx
| Quote | Operating systems based on Microsoft Windows NT technologies have always provided applications with a flat 32-bit virtual address space that describes 4 gigabytes (G of virtual memory. The address space is usually split so that 2 GB of address space is directly accessible to the application and the other 2 GB is only accessible to the Windows executive software.
The 32-bit versions of the Windows 2000 Advanced Server and Windows NT Server 4.0, Enterprise Edition, operating systems were the first versions of Windows to provide applications with a 3-GB flat virtual address space, with the kernel and executive components using only 1 GB. In response to customer requests, Microsoft has expanded the availability of this support to the 32-bit version of Windows XP Professional and all 32-bit versions of Windows Server 2003.
Windows 2000 Memory Support. With Windows 2000 Professional and Server, the maximum amount of memory that can be supported is 4 GB (identical to Windows NT 4.0, as described later in this section). However, Windows 2000 Advanced Server supports 8 GB of physical RAM and Windows 2000 Datacenter Server supports 32 GB of physical RAM using the PAE feature of the IA-32 processor family, beginning with Intel Pentium Pro and later.
Windows XP Professional and Windows Server 2003 Memory Support. The maximum amount of memory that can be supported on Windows XP Professional and Windows Server 2003 is also 4 GB. However, Windows Server 2003, Enterprise Edition supports 32 GB of physical RAM and Windows Server 2003, Datacenter Edition supports 64 GB of physical RAM using the PAE feature. |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 10:37pm | |
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So yea.
Even 3GB (2GB + the extra 1G is not worth it. |
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| Ghostkid |
Posted 30th Apr 2008 10:48pm | |
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I'm glad with my 64 MB Ram |
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| sobe |
Posted 1st May 2008 3:02am |
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I run WindowsXP Professional 32-bit SP2 and it recognizes 3.5GB of the 4GB. Meh. If you were to go 64-bit, just make sure you grab Vista and not XP. XP 64-bit was more or less a "stepping stone", whereas Vista is more of a stabilized testing phase.
And about his problem, he is running a graphics card instead of a video card, that could possibly be the issue. Graphics cards aren't meant for games... I'd like to know if he's tried any other games with the computer and workstation graphics. |
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