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crazyjack1994   Posted 15th Mar 2008 9:06pm
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Dear L4y, if you have a ps3 you would know that you can have an iternal ps2 card, and you can copy files and use usb sticks to transfer files.

any way my point is that if someone uses the red faction on ps3 and saved the profile etc could they see if they can get coding for bots etc by using hex ediots or programming etd?
   
RED-FROG   Posted 15th Mar 2008 9:22pm
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dear l4y?
What is this? A love letter?

-Red Faction is not available on PS3.

-Bot coding already is in trial by TrotSkie.

-Bots will not be helpful after all.
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crazyjack1994   Posted 15th Mar 2008 10:56pm
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Quoting Doc Savage
Quoting crazyjack1994
Dear L4y, if you have a ps3 you would know that you can have an iternal ps2 card, and you can copy files and use usb sticks to transfer files.

any way my point is that if someone uses the red faction on ps3 and saved the profile etc could they see if they can get coding for bots etc by using hex ediots or programming etd?



Lol doc its colt from xfire, and might i say frog, u don't know about my feelings to the rf community, and/or i am in love wit a girl not u i bet your upset now
   
goober   Posted 15th Mar 2008 11:17pm
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Quoting crazyjack1994
Lol doc its colt from xfire, and might i say frog, u don't know about my feelings to the rf community, and/or i am in love wit a girl not u i bet your upset now

what?
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RED-FROG   Posted 15th Mar 2008 11:18pm
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Quoting crazyjack1994
Lol doc its colt from xfire, and might i say frog, u don't know about my feelings to the rf community, and/or i am in love wit a girl not u i bet your upset now

your talkings is a mystery to me
But I can say that your avatar fits.
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SkipRat    Posted 16th Mar 2008 1:06am
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Yeah huge fail
Meh...    
crazyjack1994   Posted 16th Mar 2008 1:21am
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ok let me explain this properly.

On the ps3 you are able to access a internal ps2 memory card if you have made it/ 60 gig memory. know what i'm trying to say is, since your usb memory stick shows up in memory areas of the ps3, you may be able to copy the red faction save files/configuration files to the usb memory stick, now these files may contain some of the data that allows bots to spawn in multiplayer games...
   



SkipRat    Posted 16th Mar 2008 1:52am
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Sorry had to be done. I don't think this would work at all mate.

Goober was looking at the ps2 version of red faction a while back.

Take a look at the link below.
http://www.nebulamods.com/twtrf/index.php/topic,131.0.html
Meh...    Modified Mar 16th, 01:53am by SkipRat
goober   Posted 16th Mar 2008 3:24am
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Quoting SkipRat

Goober was looking at the ps2 version of red faction a while back.

Take a look at the link below.
http://www.nebulamods.com/twtrf/index.php/topic,131.0.html

Ah yes. Now that you mention it, I might look at some more stuff later.
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crazyjack1994   Posted 16th Mar 2008 11:10am
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yes but you didn't really find anything, besides maps etc, u need a peg extracter or something, why would this contain bot information?

Edit frog you said bots are not needed, perhaps they could be useful to train on, if trotsdkie programmed a aimbot for themso they would be skilled like nick :/
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Garner    Posted 16th Mar 2008 2:13pm
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Profiles/Save games are just that... they never ever contain actual program code. As what would be the point in saving something like that to a profile? Its the same for all users!
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goober   Posted 16th Mar 2008 2:56pm
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Quoting crazyjack1994
yes but you didn't really find anything, besides maps etc, u need a peg extracter or something, why would this contain bot information?

Edit frog you said bots are not needed, perhaps they could be useful to train on, if trotsdkie programmed a aimbot for themso they would be skilled like nick :/


Colt, do you not understand? We had "bots" from the Ps2 version. Look at the 2 videos half-way down that page. Also, his name is TrotSkie. And if you could please tell me how a bot is supposed to aim without an aimbot I'd be pretty happy

We already have a peg extracter. Next time read the thread before commenting.

Pegs contain files which extract as tgas, but they're not tgas. It's a strange file.
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Spikey2005   Posted 16th Mar 2008 4:01pm
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Nah colt, your idea won't work. Save and config files are just configuration for controls and save positions. They do not contain the Data needed for bots in multiplayer.

I have never played RF on the PS2 but im certain tho, bot Data would possibly be a little bit big to hold onto a normal Memory card that you insert into the PS2. I also think that the bot info is stored within the maps too, as the bots would need directions (Path Nodes) to follow in order to actually successfully move about correctly around the map and not walk through walls or fall through the floor.

How would a bot Capture the flag without directions? The bot needs to be told what a Wall is so that he will not walk in a straight line towards the flag. They have to be able to move around in the map with physical laws applied.

That Data would be a little huge for a memory card to hold.

Even if a PS3 can hold the memory, you still cannot obtain the data because it will be inbedded to the CD. You also cannot save games in multiplayer . So where does this so called Configuration come from?
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RED-FROG   Posted 17th Mar 2008 10:28pm
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hm I think only TrotSkie can say that. However..it does not seem to be one of his primary subjects, he has been trying to spawn them, and get them to work properly, I don't know how well they could be working, and I don't know if he is allowed to program the bots for the behaviours at all.
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goober   Posted 18th Mar 2008 2:18am
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I don't quite know what you mean by "if he is allowed to program the bots for the behaviours at all", but I can tell you that he has had bots join his server in front of me... I haven't seen much more than that though. Granted, that was over a month ago so there may be more progress. I'd imagine that his primary objective is Pure v4 right about now though. Personally, I'd consider blocking hacks & cheats more beneficial than spawning bots
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