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Lanshire   Posted 8th Mar 2008 12:15am
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Hey You Guys, I started a thread here yesterday..It slike 2 threads above this one.. anyway here is my problem...

Bare with me..

I am loosing a considerable amount of framerate in ALL of my games i play.. RF , RF2, ut2004, MW, SOF2.. it doesn't matter which game i play i always loose framerate.

Here's the ticker of it. When i join any of the games i play.. Lets say RF for example.. I t will play fine for about 2 min and then i will drop about 25 frames for like 5 seconds and then it will go back to normal for like another 2min and then loose 25 more frames for about 5 seconds, and it just keeps cycling like that. My first thought was my Video card ( original was Geforce 6800 (256DDR).. so i decided to replace it with a new Geforce 8600 GTS ( 512MB DDR) Both cards are PCI-E. I also dropped 1 more gig of ram in my system. Now i have 2 gigs of pc3200 Ram.

Some people from work tell me that my Motherboard is shot (or is on its last leg), and some say it might be my processor. Any help would be Greatly Appreciated.

My System:

Computer    
Operating System     Microsoft Windows XP Professional
OS Service Pack     Service Pack 2
DirectX     4.09.00.0904 (DirectX 9.0c)

    
Motherboard    
CPU Type     AMD Athlon 64, 2200 MHz (11 x 200) 3500+
Motherboard Name     Asus A8N-SLI Premium (3 PCI, 1 PCI-E x1, 1 PCI-E x4, 2 PCI-E x16, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio, Dual Gigabit LAN, IEEE-1394)
Motherboard Chipset     nVIDIA nForce4 SLI, AMD Hammer
System Memory     2048 MB (PC3200 DDR SDRAM)
BIOS Type     Award (08/10/06)
Communication Port     Communications Port (COM1)
Communication Port     ECP Printer Port (LPT1)
    
Display    
Video Adapter     NVIDIA GeForce 8600 GTS (512 M
    
Multimedia    
Audio Adapter     Creative SB Live! Value (CT4831) Sound Card
Audio Adapter     nVIDIA MCP04 - Audio Codec Interface
    
Storage    
IDE Controller     NVIDIA nForce4 Parallel ATA Controller
IDE Controller     NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller
IDE Controller     NVIDIA nForce4 Serial ATA Controller
SCSI/RAID Controller     Silicon Image SiI 3114 SoftRaid 5 Controller
Floppy Drive     Floppy disk drive
Disk Drive     GENERIC USB Storage-SMC USB Device
Disk Drive     GENERIC USB Storage-SDC USB Device
Disk Drive     GENERIC USB Storage-MSC USB Device
Disk Drive     GENERIC USB Storage-CFC USB Device
Disk Drive     ST3100011A (93 GB, IDE)
Optical Drive     _NEC DVD_RW ND-3550A
Optical Drive     LITE-ON DVDRW SHW-160P6S
SMART Hard Disks Status     OK
    
Partitions    
I: (NTFS)     95385 MB (77440 MB free)
    
Input    
Keyboard     HID Keyboard Device
Mouse     HID-compliant mouse
Mouse     PS/2 Compatible Mouse
    

Network Adapter     Marvell Yukon 88E8001/8003/8010 PCI Gigabit Ethernet Controller
Network Adapter     NVIDIA nForce Networking Controller - Packet Scheduler Miniport ( IP ADDRESS REMOVE)
    
Peripherals    
Printer     Microsoft XPS Document Writer
USB1 Controller     nVIDIA MCP04 - OHCI USB Controller
USB1 Controller     VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller
USB1 Controller     VIA VT83C572 PCI-USB Controller
USB2 Controller     nVIDIA MCP04 - EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
USB2 Controller     VIA USB 2.0 Enhanced Host Controller
USB Device     USB Composite Device
USB Device     USB Human Interface Device
USB Device     USB Human Interface Device
USB Device     USB Mass Storage Device

Let me know what you guys think maybe the problem is.

Thanks
Lan    Modified Mar 8th, 07:41am by Forum Moderator
RED-FROG   Posted 8th Mar 2008 10:22am
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I haven't seen the framerate drop myself...it could be everything.
When game scenes become complex the framerate will surely drop.

Heat might be the problem.
Perhaps when your CPU or GPU becoms too hot, it reduces it's performance - and thus will cause a lower framerate for the time it's cooling down again.
If your CPU already has that "Cool and Quiet" feature, you should try to turn it OFF, and see what happens. You can turn Cool and Quiet off in BIOS, and you should always take a look at your Power Management, located in System Controls. If the power management is set to "Minimal", try setting it to Desktop, so the PC will not be trying to lower the clock of the CPU.
Also, try it by running your system with the PC case opened, and try to cool it down.
Don't overclock your PC while you are testing.
Set the clockspeed of the RAM to its default values, your RAM may get too hot, or already broke which causes a lot of correction time - slow framerate.

If it's not a temperature problem, it might be a broken mainboard (look for the capacitors, do they look like this they are broken/blown out), false drivers or broken/overclocked RAM.

ps
in the games you have listed, you said MW...Mars Wars?
¤ MARS WARS 3! - Red Faction revamped on the unreal engine. Superiority ¤    Modified Mar 8th, 11:16am by RED-FROG
Lanshire   Posted 8th Mar 2008 2:02pm
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Quoting digital_ruler
Might want to edit your post and remove your IP.


Thanks Bud, I didint realize that.. I guess the Moderator removed it!
Lan    
NoClanFrank    Posted 9th Mar 2008 5:19am
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Now, now. I just happen to agree with digital_ruler about people not exposing their IPs to something wanting to take hack them through the Internet.
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RED-FROG   Posted 9th Mar 2008 1:26pm
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Quoting NoClanFrank
Now, now. I just happen to agree with digital_ruler about people not exposing their IPs to something wanting to take hack them through the Internet.

You can find IPs of people on many places..
IPs of RF servers.
IPs of Players in PureFaction.

those are just 2, related to RF

But I doubt there is much use of just having an IP of somebody..(I'm not talking about ports) otherwise all our PCs would have stopped running already.
¤ MARS WARS 3! - Red Faction revamped on the unreal engine. Superiority ¤    Modified Mar 9th, 01:27pm by RED-FROG
crazyjack1994   Posted 9th Mar 2008 2:02pm
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this used to happen to me, when i started loosing frame rates something was sucking up my memory, so get a spyware remove program or something, so that should boost the frame rate
   
Beatonator    Posted 9th Mar 2008 4:14pm
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Quoting digital_ruler
Can't hurt to hide it


My thoughts Exactly. I only post it or let people see it when needed.
Trying to find old players. Anyone about? Drop me a PM or reply to this thread:
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Lanshire   Posted 9th Mar 2008 10:00pm
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Quoting crazyjack1994
this used to happen to me, when i started loosing frame rates something was sucking up my memory, so get a spyware remove program or something, so that should boost the frame rate



I will check for spyware But i am fairly sure i do not have any.. its a fresh install. I use AVG and Spybot!
Lan    
Ghostkid   Posted 9th Mar 2008 10:18pm
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Quoting Lanshire
Quoting crazyjack1994
this used to happen to me, when i started loosing frame rates something was sucking up my memory, so get a spyware remove program or something, so that should boost the frame rate



I will check for spyware But i am fairly sure i do not have any.. its a fresh install. I use AVG and Spybot!

AVG Sucks

Get KaperSky or Avast or something.

And if you got some money get NOD32
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sobe    Posted 10th Mar 2008 2:39am
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AVG is possibly the best free antivirus currently available. Avast!.... Don't bother, they miss too many updates. Most colleges seem to suggest AVG as the free AntiVirus and Nod32 as the paid for antivirus, lol. Most, if not all colleges/universities around may provide a free legal copy of Nod32 with your student ID(I didn't know this :O).

If you want to pay for an A/V, KasperSky or Nod32 will be your best choices. Nod32 being the lead choice of course, and honestly no difference in price from that of McAfee or Norton AntiVirus that you'd pay in stores.
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Beatonator    Posted 10th Mar 2008 9:14am
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>>CLICK ME!<<

Quoting Website
Missed in the wild viruses

AVG
ItW on-access: 745
ItW on-demand: 234


The lower the number the better obviously.
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MacFlying   Posted 10th Mar 2008 11:31am
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I bet there is some auto-update or similar activated, spyware is also possible. I have nearly same system except an ATI 1900. Temporary framedrops are caused by e.g. Virusscanner, Spyware, Update Checks. Im using WinPatrol this programm causes frame drops each 2 min when it checks my registery for new entries.
Also u may check ur whole system for spyware, Spybot Search & Destroy is very handy, download here http://www.spybot.info/

And if nothing helps HiJackThis http://www.hijackthis.de/en
   
Lanshire   Posted 11th Mar 2008 1:47am
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Auctually I found out what it was...

I never thought about it.. But i have DSL and it started to affect me some time ago, ( about loosing Framerate).. and it turned out that it was my Internet Connection. Tell you how i know.. I took it to techxperts ( a local computer tech place) and they let me hook mine up to their cable modem.. and i played for 30 min with 0 framerate loss.. I even used fraps.. with no loss. I then bought it home.. and as soon as i started Playing.. it all started all over again.. i started loosing ( Internet connection Packets) i guess is what its called. Thats why is was so consistent and always at the same time.

WEll the short of it was, is that i called SBC and asked them to run a check on my line from the tech's side of it and they said that there were errors on the line , But no really bad one's, However, they did say that the errors keep coming up and fluttering the line.. so they are sending out a tech tomorrow to look at it after i get home. I also installed a chasis fan.. didnt make a difference at all.

So wish me luck!
Lan    Modified Mar 11th, 01:47am by Lanshire
RED-FROG   Posted 11th Mar 2008 4:33pm
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agree.

You have to check the temperatures while playing to find out if temp has any relation to the problem. Download a program like "SpeedFan" which will frequently view the temps, clock- and fanspeeds.

The most obvious way to find out if it has relation to the internet connection is to run the PC without it for a few hours.. (a PC can also run without internet )

Another problem might be a wrong configured network card. Something that overruns a buffer with time.
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