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| Red Faction : Lounge : ISM Mod writers??? |
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| steveands |
  Posted 29th Dec 2006 2:04pm |
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Any 1 know how to contact any one of the original writers of the ISM mod for RF??
The web site no longer exists.
I was wondering if they would mind a Mac port of the mod. Didn't want to make any changes without permission.
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| goober |
Posted 29th Dec 2006 3:54pm |  |
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As long as the files aren't changed. You must make sure that your Mac version is compatible with the original. |
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| steveands |
Posted 29th Dec 2006 8:41pm |
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The original PC version crashes on the mac. Sound files and table files can often cause crashes on the mac version.
Like some PC maps the sound files would need to be converted to a format that the Mac understands.
From a user perspective all of the elements of the Mod would stay exactly the same. |
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| goober |
Posted 29th Dec 2006 9:56pm | |
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That is not the problem. Convert the sound files all you like (keep the same filename "ex: buckshot.wav = buckshot.aif"), but DO NOT, i repeat, DO NOT edit the table files of the mod. Doing so would make the mac version incompatible with the PC version. |
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| Hapa Hanu |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 3:21am |
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Takerezy gooooober.  steveands has the best interests of RF in mind. Which includes thorough compatibility.
steveands and myself have had some degree of contact within the last week. I am mightily impressed with his knowledge and usage of RF on the MAC platform. |
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| goober |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 3:42am | |
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Oh, im not trying to discourage him in any way, im just saying that a Mac port of ISM which isnt compatible with the original, could be more destructive than helpful  |
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| D2k |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 10:44am |
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I must be hallucinating. Can anyone else here confirm that Slayer7.666 actually took the time to create not only a useful post, but with proper spelling and grammer? 
Anaways about a mac port... UPGRADE YOUR COMPUTER! We aren't living in the 90's anymore. 
If you want modern day weapons, try this mod I made Way better weapon models ripped from MP2 and animated by me. Now, im going to go cry cause all this hard work got less than 200 downloads. |
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| steveands |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 11:34am |
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Upgrade your computer??
Hasn't anyone told D2k that macs now use intel processors??? and can run both windows and macosx at full speed and at the same time??
lol. I think the only thing thats living in the 90's is your understanding of macs.
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| goober |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 3:44pm | |
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D2k including both versions of Tactical Weapons, you have 313 downloads.
And, I will confirm that Slayer made a descently useful post, but I wont confirm the grammer part. |
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| Hapa Hanu |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 6:39pm |
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Before we all get carried away claiming this that and the other thing: converting maps and mods to run on the MAC involves only one element - placing .aif equivalents of the original .wav files into the .vpp's.
This will prevent MAC RF from crashing and provide the artist's original vision to be enjoyed by a wider audience.
Don't worry Slayer7.666 - I haven't touched a .rfl or table file yet.
Incidently, the application we use to convert .wav into .aif IMA 4:1 format is SoundAppPPC - a ten year old program which needs no replacement because it is unrivaled in capability.
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sobe  |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 8:00pm |
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MAC can use Intel procs all they like, but they will always be the underdog compared to PCs. And if you HONESTLY think about it, if Macs were ANYTHING near as popular as computers, they too would have as many viruses, etc. It's the fact that they aren't very popular that Mac users think they are safe.
In fact, I believe somewhere on TG Daily, they showed at a Hacking convention that someone hacked a Mac laptop within 5min. or something like that that was running MacOSX.
And steveands, pcs can do that exact same thing full speed at the same time. It really depends on what hardware is within it. If you say.... threw a cheap Celeron D or so in a Mac, try to run Windows and MacOSX. The biggest issue, is dual booting. And I am pretty sure you need a special prog to dual boot within another OS, which MAC does NOT supply on their machines. Using another partition however, is another story. Using a 2nd partition you can start up in either MacOSX or Windows, but not at once.
And just as a thing for me to know for future reference, does anyone know if Macs can be overclocked liked Pcs can? Like taking an Intel Core 2 Duo E6600 and overclocking past 5GHz or farther while using Phase cooling. |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 8:26pm | |
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| Quoting sobe | | MAC can use Intel procs all they like, but they will always be the underdog compared to PCs. And if you HONESTLY think about it, if Macs were ANYTHING near as popular as computers, they too would have as many viruses, etc. It's the fact that they aren't very popular that Mac users think they are safe. ... |
Exactly, its called security by obscurity ... which means if you use something different from everyone else you are less likely to have viruses, malware, etc.
However, i will point out that Apple has done an excellent job of pulling their company out of the gutter. Ever since Apple has pretty much cornered the MP3 player market kids now days think that Apple stuff is much better than less visually appealing stuff (like PCs)
When i go to class and look around the room i see college students listening to their iPods and surfing around the internet on their iMac laptops. From what i see now, I could actually see the day where iMacs become the dominant computing platform. Not because they are better than PCs, but because they appeal to the ignorant young crowd with their fashionable designs and their truckloads of advertising saying that iMacs are cool.
To sum it up, kids are the future and younger people envision iMacs as individualistic and creative while they envision PC's as almost the exact opposite of the iMac. So in the future, iMacs could be the dominant computing platform.
(there is some irony hidden in this somewhere )
My opinion is that they are not better, but they are going to sell their products better in the future unless microsoft starts appealing to the younger crowd as well ... |
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| Hapa Hanu |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 8:53pm |
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MACs can be overclocked. Simply by replacing the resistors that regulate the processors incoming voltage supply. Speed gains of 15% with an extra .5 volts are typical without extra cooling.
The allure of MAC is the plug and play functionality. There are very few external devices that actually require drivers to be installed.
Also, it would be vanity to imagine that MACs are free of viruses and such. All computers suffer from flaws - Apple regularly updates the security of their operating systems. OS X just doesn't have the volume of loop holes that Micro$oft offers with Windoze. |
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| sobe |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 9:56pm |
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My knowledge on Macs is not the best, so if I am wrong about something, feel free to correct me
Btw, replacing resistors for an overclock... I know of people that volt mod motherboards, etc. and even remove the silver top of the processor that acts as a heat absorber(Can't think of actual name) to gain large gains in speeds for overclocks, however increases in the chance of something going wrong. |
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| steveands |
Posted 30th Dec 2006 10:23pm |
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Sobe
"And I am pretty sure you need a special prog to dual boot within another OS, which MAC does NOT supply on their machines. Using another partition however, is another story. Using a 2nd partition you can start up in either MacOSX or Windows, but not at once."
Apple provides boot camp all all of the windows drivers with every new mac which allows dual booting. Some vendors even sell macs with winxp included.
There are multiple ways of running windows side by side with macosx - not dual booting i.e. you can copy files from macosx to winxp as both operating systems are running together but the most popular way is using parallels desktop
Anyway this is got way of topic. This is supposed to be ISM mods for mac not mac v pc. |
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| sobe |
Posted 31st Dec 2006 1:58am |
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I agree it veered off-course, and yes, I forgot about that boot camp thing they have. However, all that does is throw Windows on another partition, as I stated. And you have to download the beta for the boot camp. Doesn't come within a Mac computer/laptop.
Anyway, I'll see if I can get in touch with someone from ISM. Like Mike or someone with a lot of knowledge, like SnipedDragon. |
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