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| RED-FROG |
  Posted 29th Nov 2006 2:19pm |  |
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I want to buy a new graphics card. I've found two good AGP cards which almost cost the same price.
A GECUBE X1650PRO 256MB AGP ; 134,95 EUR
and a SAPPHIRE RADEON X1600 PRO 512 MB AGP ; 139,95 EUR
The Sapphire has more memory, Gecube has more performance (speed)
Gecube
ATI Radeon X1650 PRO
GPU-Clock: 600 MHz
pipelines: 12
RAMDAC: 400 MHz
Memory (RAM): 256 MB
Type of memory: GDDR3
Access time: 1,4 ns
Memoryclock: 1400 MHz
128 Bit
VGA, 2x DVI, TV-Out
Sapphire
ATI Radeon X1600 Pro
GPU-Clock: 500 MHz
pipelines: 12
RAMDAC: 400 MHz
Memory (RAM): 512 MB
Type of memory: DDR2
Access time: 2 ns
Memoryclock: 800 MHz
128 Bit
VGA, DV, TV-OutI
The Sapphire one has more memory but I think Gecube would be the better choice because its 100Mhz faster, what do you think?
I heard it often that memory is not everything, and 512MB is not useful nowadays. |
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| Predalienator_ |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 3:18pm |
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Maby you should wait for 2007 and wait for the DirectX 10 capable graphic cards and buy them when it is April[Prices must have been down by then]
But if i were you i,ll buy the GECUBE,memory isnt everything and you saved a few euro,s. |
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Posted 29th Nov 2006 5:39pm | |
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I'm still using a 128Mb card... plays GRAW just fine.
If I was buying a new card today I'd go for a 256Mb one to be a little on the safe side... 512Mb is bordering on the excessive...
Pred - NVidia have the first DX10 cards out now, I've seen the 8800GTS (768Mb) and 8800 GTX (640Mb) - both DX10 cards. Saw a review on TheRegister where a single 8800 GTS outperforms an ATI 1950Pro Crossfire setup at resolutions up to 1280*1024 with 4xAF, 16xAA 
Serious horsepower...
These cards are begining to approach the amount of RAM I have in my machine... |
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Posted 29th Nov 2006 10:21pm |
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The 7950GX2 has 1GB RAM
Also, the GTX is the one with 768MB
And RF, I'd go for the GeCube, it supports GDDR3. |
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| DaveMan_CI |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 10:29pm |
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| Quoting sobe | | The 7950GX2 has 1GB RAM |
Yeah but the GX2 is just 2 cards duct taped together
Pity ur on AGP it does make the choice alot smaller, if i was still on AGP i'd go for this http://www.scan.co.uk/Products/ProductInfo.asp?WebProductID=499563
Chipset: 7600GT
Edition:
Chipset Features: Microsoft DirectX 9.0
nVidia CineFX 4.0
nVidia Dgital Vibrance Control 3.0
nVidia Intellisample 4
nVidia nView
nVidia Pure-Video
nVidia Ultrashadow 2
OpenGL 2.0
Shader Model 3.0
GPU Speed: 580 MHz
Memory: 256MB
Memory Bit Rate: 128 Bit
Memory Type: GDDR3
Memory Speed: 1500 MHz
Pipelines/Stream Process: 12
Cooling: Fan
Interface: AGP 4x/8x
Connectivity: Dual DVI HDTV |
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| Schuy01 |
Posted 30th Nov 2006 3:00am |
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Its best to just wait until the next crop of hardware comes around. AGP is pretty much dead, and the new AGP cards coming out (x1600 series, 7 series) are bottle-necked by the slot itself and you wouldn't get the performance you'd expect from the upgrade anyway. 
But that gf8800 looks mighty interesting. 
Benches for that beast found here.
And the SLI setup beches found here.
(oh, the GTX version has 768mbs of ram, and the GTS version has 640mbs) |
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 30th Nov 2006 5:02am | |
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Depends what you want to use it for.
If its only AGP you will never benefit from the extra memory as the power of the card is just to small to utilize it.
With AGP all you really need to look at is the clock speed and the bit rate.
General Terminology
bit rate - how fast it can move the information
clock speed - how powerful it is (think CPU clock speeds)
memory - how much it can process at once.
This is my basic understanding of it |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 30th Nov 2006 5:12am | |
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well, unless you want to buy it by Xmas i would advise that don't buy it untill after Xmas  , Prices for computer parts are inflated at the moment because of the shopping season ...
they will probably drop afterwords ...
thats my plan anyway ...
i would go with the 100mhz faster one BTW ... not accounting for quality ... i don't know the company or chipset reputations ... |
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| Vidi44 |
Posted 9th Dec 2006 6:07am |
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According to M$, DX 10 will only be compatable with Vista. Yep, they sold out the millions of us XP'ers, who will be stuck with DX 9.
Personally, I wish I had the money to front for that stuff. The preliminary stuff shows it to be a sweet interface, and the programming is supposed to be 5 times easier for it (the only thing keeping me from 3d game design (aside from my complete and total lack of understanding about it ) is the difficulties people have with the different video drivers and whatnot). Alas, I haven't the money for a new system (in theory, I could upgrade to Vista, but I'd have to upgrade my memory and graphics card first, and the configuration/backing up of files/installation/etc would be too time-consuming for my lazy tastes ).
Back on topic: Go with the 256MB one. Several tests have shown that the main thing to go for is transfer rate any more. More memory doesn't equal better performance (in fact, there was one PC Magazine/World article where a 128MB card outperformed the 512MB one). All the memory tells you is how many instructions it can hold, not how many it's actually processing. Unless you were using the card with a hyperthreading-compatable processor (in which case the spare graphics card memory would be used as a pseudo-cache, I suppose), go with the 256MB with the faster pipelines and whatnot.
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