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| Red Faction : [RED] Editing : "cant shot" Bug ? |
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| Cyrus |
  Posted 29th Nov 2006 2:11pm |  |
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Hi community,
im back in RF, found the fun in mapping back 
first, sorry for my english. I try my best 
Im building on a map at the moment. I have now a Bug if i play the map online or singel player - i cant shot with my weapon. There are just the effect (light). I think i know this bug when you have to long brushes? But i dont have "very" long brushes, i dont know how the bug happens. Did i reached a Limit in RED? Map works good, but you cant shot. No errors in RED.
Here some details:
| Quote | Chopping portal: 58/58
Cleaning final geometry...
Building rooms...
Fixing up texture uvs for ps2...
Had to add 22 faces to fix ps2 tiling.
Fixing any t-joints...
Fixed 297 t-joints.
Checking for holes...
Found 0 holes
Brushes: 652
Portals: 58
Rooms: 280
Faces: 6375/10500
Face Vertices: 29394/50400
Vertices: 8730/13650
Rays recast: 12/9941
Timings:
Booleans: 2.684 s
Removing Bogus Solids: 0.268 s
Room creation: 0.210 s
Other: 0.415 s
Total time: 3.577 s |
and the groups:
im not a expert in RED i dont know how i can fix this bug. I dont want delete brushes, but i can modifie it or something. dont know 
I would be happy if someone can help me 
Thanks
Cyrus |
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Modified Nov 29th, 02:54pm by Cyrus |
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| crazyjack1994 |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 5:19pm | |
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i think u might have 2 many brushes idk i guess the red ppl will have to help you |
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| onetodome |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 5:24pm |
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yes i think its portals |
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Modified Nov 29th, 05:25pm by onetodome |
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| E_Darkness |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 5:29pm |
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I think that not being able to shoot you guy happens when you are outside of the map, at least in multi player it does. |
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| Cyrus |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 8:24pm | |
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thanks for your answers
i deleted the last build room, testen and shooting works. now i build ~100 brushes air & solid. No bug, shooting works. i placed ~50 lights to this brushes. Shooting Works. I added ~50 bolt enmitters & ~50 Targets - Map Crash! I dont know if that is the bug. Got this message:
Delete the Bolts & Targest, map works good. 
I think i used to much details with bolts.. thanks for your answers, i will test more. |
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| Ghostkid |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 9:31pm | |
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Cyrus !  Nice to see YOU back !! Planning To make a Cyrus Park 3 ?  |
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| goober |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 11:05pm | |
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Or a DeathRun 4?!?! |
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Assaultman67  |
Posted 29th Nov 2006 11:58pm | |
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i haven't ever seen a bug in a map where you cannot shoot in the level  ...
too bad that i couldn't of popped up in a deathrun like map where it is needed ... |
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| Ninja~ |
Posted 30th Nov 2006 1:56am |
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I had the same problem with my Darkrun map.
I also couldn't shoot, before I removed some things.
I removed some "is detail" brushes and some other brushes and then it worked.. Or at least it works untill 6 or more players are in the map.
My beleif is that the problem is caused by too many seperate textures.. To explain it better I mean using 10 textures in total is better than using 100, because Darkrun did use alot of different textures.. thats one of the only thing I can think of which could make this happen.
Another thing could be the ammount of clutter objects or movers.. and lighting too  maybe even the music could be triggering this problem throughout this series of unforunate events.
So then I'm sorry I can't help, This problem is indeed very mysterious.. I hope my German is okay |
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| Cyrus |
Posted 30th Nov 2006 5:58pm | |
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you all helped me
@Slayer7.666 i dont know exactly what you want say me but thanks very much for your ideas
the bug was as i testet the bolts and triggers. I deltedet the last bolts i created and the map works. Now i must reduce and delete some bolts
i think this error on the screen is a standard error - all errors shows this message.
Thank you ninja (when will your map released? )
i tested today online with my friend, he gots much times the same error after 8:40min. It was a bug in music events, i edit it and it works now.
Now i hope there will be no more errors im not happy about that i must delete some bolts
thanks for your support!
@goober & ghostkid
both
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Modified Nov 30th, 06:00pm by Cyrus |
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| goober |
Posted 30th Nov 2006 7:48pm | |
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REALLY?!?!? I CANT WAIT! Man i really cant wait for deathrun4! Take a look at the other run maps that have been relesed just to gain ideas and stuff too! Dont copy ideas exactally, but insted take ideas and merge them! |
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| Ninja~ |
Posted 30th Nov 2006 10:25pm |
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My upcoming map is getting pretty big and close to finished now.. But I just continously create more sections... The newest section I create are usually the ones I'm more happy with too.. So I go back and delete older sections.
I think the reason I don't simply rush the map for a quick but interesting release is because I've been working on it for such a long time that I have the perfect style and everything for this 1 map.
It's a new style to Darkrun I'm quite pleased to announce that 1 of it's best features is the size of the overall level..I have managed to make the entire level look very detailed and rocky looking.. But yet I'm using no more of RED limits than If I was creating a box map.. So I'm able to create infinite ammounts of highly modified shapes (which seem higher detailed than they actually are) I'm sure this run will be so massive that you won't be able to finish this map as quick... And while my 1st Darkrun was really hard and frustrated especially to new players.. My new upcoming Darkrun2 is friendly for new players.
There is one screenshot.. But there is around 100 other rooms. 
So as happy as I am with the progress and style of the map, makes it more worth my time to work on.
Hint: Biggest new obstacle in Darkrun2 map is the Downhill challenges.. Imagine having to run down a track (60 % downhill ) The player runs twice as fast and sometimes loses control completely Also not quite as intense challenge is the uphill sections which are like hill climbing.
The level also includes some friendly AI which are the bats, I haven't tested the finished map with the 500 bats that I hope to have in the map.. But I hope it works.. |
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Modified Nov 30th, 10:29pm by Ninja~ |
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| Cyrus |
Posted 4th Dec 2006 1:06pm | |
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Nice Screenshot ninja
I like your style how you create rooms/maps. Its different to my.
I already tested a (very? old) version of darkrun2 with ninja. That what i see you cant find this in my maps. You will only find this in ninjas maps. 
I hope we can play your map soon.
Thanks Infernus!
I try to hurry
Cyrus |
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| Ghostkid |
Posted 4th Dec 2006 1:34pm | |
Invisible Kid
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| Quoting goober | | REALLY?!?!? I CANT WAIT! Man i really cant wait for deathrun4! Take a look at the other run maps that have been relesed just to gain ideas and stuff too! Dont copy ideas exactally, but insted take ideas and merge them! |
Same For me Dude !! man my first time L4Y on school |
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| Cyrus |
Posted 5th Dec 2006 8:00pm | |
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i have a fast new question, how can i create a looping music in RED for multiplayer? but first there must be a other music.
->Map Loading: Music 1 Playing
after Music 1: Music 2 Playing and looping
can this works?
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| goober |
Posted 5th Dec 2006 8:59pm | |
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yea it can, shall i set up a simple level to show you??
I couldnt wait for a response, so i made this
Song 1, is the first, Song 2 is the second, Song 3 is the third. Keep in mind that Song 2 and Song 3 can be the same song.
I always use "Music_Stop" events after the delay after the "Delay event for the length of the songs. I just find it works better. But i dont think you have to
What this will do is when the level starts, play the first song, then play the second, and the third. When the third is done, it will play second, third, second, third... ect... in a continous loop
Hope this helps you! |
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Modified Dec 5th, 09:35pm by goober |
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