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| Agent SmithAK |
  Posted 28th Jun 2006 8:08am |
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I've recently been following a walkthrough on the red tech website and i am having major issues with it.
http://redtech.rededitor.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=52&Itemid=0
i get to the boning part and there seems to be stuff left out of it:
QUOTING REDTECH: Now for Boning (Kungkrille called it Skinning, this is what he means). Select your arm/gun mesh, and go to Modifier stack and select in the grey area below the box "Add Bones" button. Add only "BDBN-Weapon". Now go back to the modifier stack, select RF_Bone-->Vertex, and select all you Weapon's blue little vertexes (just highlight the whole weapon, and weapon only).
I can't find RF_Bone and i need to in order to finish a weapon i'm making.
I don't know how to get RF_Bone into the modifier stack. Is this a fault on my behalf or has something been mistakenly left out?
duz anyone know how to fix this? |
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Beatonator  |
Posted 28th Jun 2006 10:16am |
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What version of 3Ds Max are you using?
RF Bone is a special Plug-in which you have to download (its in the developers kit somewhere here) and put in the plug-ins folder of 3Ds Max.
If you are using 3Ds Max 4, 4.2, 5, this is your problem.
If you are using any other versions of 3Ds Max, dont even bother it wont work. Plug-in isnt compatible with other versions.  |
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| Agent SmithAK |
Posted 28th Jun 2006 11:27am |
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i'm using 4.2.
thanks man... just found out that its in the RF Toolkit.
Edit: Also I cant find "Add Bones" in the modifier stack. is this another plugin i need to download? |
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| Ninja~ |
Posted 28th Jun 2006 12:59pm |
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RF Bone Modifier..
I beleive you just add RF Bone Modifier to desired mesh for adding Bones.
RF Toolkit contains everything you need.. But I would also find RF Weapon Examples which are usefull to learn from.. Not that I did  |
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| Agent SmithAK |
Posted 28th Jun 2006 2:44pm |
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thanks any way i semm to be past that now. worked it out (i hope) but now i'm having trouble finding how to export animations as .mvf's...? |
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| goober |
Posted 28th Jun 2006 2:53pm |  |
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i think you have to use MFReduce. |
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| Agent SmithAK |
Posted 28th Jun 2006 2:59pm |
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here's what the welkthrough says:
Alright, now for exporting the animation to .mvf. Select your weapon mesh and scroll down until you see MVF Export. Select all the bones in their boxes holding CTRL, and export your animation as fp_testgun_idle.mvf into your C:\RFToolKit\MVFReduce\ directory. |
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| SKA-Diesel |
Posted 28th Jun 2006 11:29pm |
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Make a new file with the rig you have made... call it "gun shoot" or something.
OK now, make the sure the animation time line is "1" to whenever you want the animation to end. When your happy with the animation.. maybe the gun firing or something, click on the mesh, select the options for RF_bone in the modifier panel, then click EXPORT. Save your file, then load up mvf reduce.
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| Agent SmithAK |
Posted 29th Jun 2006 12:34am |
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excellent...git it. now i've exported it as a vcm and changed it into a .v3c... now a new proplem arises - the positioning is off so it dowsn't show at all on the screen. is there an easy way fi get this right? |
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| RF Grim Reaper |
Posted 29th Jun 2006 2:47am | |
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There is a line for each weapon in weapons.tbl:
$1st Person offset: <0.123,0.123,0.123>
This is the position of the model in relation to your view.
The numbers are in the form: <x co-ordinate, y co-ordinate, z co-ordinate>
You can use both positive and negative numbers here to tweak the position. Higher numbers move: right for X, up for Y and away from the screen in Z.
You can position the gun in Max in such a way that you don't need to change these settings. I've spent alot of hours trying to get the correct position in Max but still can't manage it, so unless you find a way I'd suggest tweaking the values above  |
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| SKA-Diesel |
Posted 29th Jun 2006 7:43am |
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| Quoting Agent Smith AK | | excellent...git it. |
Good, I'm glad more people are learning the Rf bone process. 
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| sobe |
Posted 29th Jun 2006 8:34am |
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Guess I need to open 3ds max 4.2 and learn it eh |
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| SKA-Diesel |
Posted 29th Jun 2006 8:43am |
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Absolutely |
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| Beatonator |
Posted 29th Jun 2006 2:26pm |
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SKA, next time you have plenty of time can you walk me through it? I really want to re-learn it. one of my many problems is making a decent weapon to start with  |
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| RF Grim Reaper |
Posted 29th Jun 2006 7:37pm | |
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Yea, making real world weapons is pretty simple. It's ones that only exist in your head that are much harder  |
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| Agent SmithAK |
Posted 30th Jun 2006 2:50am |
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I agree. the weapon I'm trying to make is a real world MP-40 sub machine gun:
Unfortunateley here's what happened when i tried adding just the .v3c mesh to a mod with a tweaked weapons.tbl to get the weapon on screen here's what i got:
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i obviousley messed up somewhere i think with boning cuz doing that was a bit sketchy.
duz anyone know where i stuffed it? |
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