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HitPerson   Posted 24th Mar 2006 5:56am
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I was recently watching a documentary on the idea of slave reparations and there were some things said that didn't sit too well or to say the least, I didn't agree with. One of the people interviewed was, if I remember correctly, a member of the city council of New York. What he said was something to the effect of "If reperations were to be paid to the African-American community, it would heal the soul of the nation."

To me, this idea sounds too simple and ideal.

In short, I honestly believe if the govt. was to force the payment of reparations, that there would be an increase in civil unrest and racism would probably become worse because of it.

I'm just curious what you guys' take on it is if you have any. i understand many of you are not American, but I figure the subject fits anywhere, and I would appreciate your comments as well.

I would like to keep this thread civil and hear what people think about this. So please, refrain from the "OMG ur teh racism!!1" talk.
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133   Posted 24th Mar 2006 6:12am
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reparations
Noun
1. The act or process of repairing or the condition of being repaired. 2. The act or process of making amends; expiation. 3. Something done or paid to compensate or make amends. 4. Compensation or remuneration required from a defeated nation as indemnity for damage or injury during a war

Reparations of any sort are ineffectual and pointless, they never seem to get paid. Then to try and put value on human life as a form of compensation sounds a bit absurd. The prejudice ones will believe that, their lives are worth more than someone elses, until it is a worldwide understanding that we are all capable of taking eachother's lives just as easily as they could ours, it'll be impossible to say, when two types of people will be equal when using slavery.
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Mono   Posted 24th Mar 2006 1:11pm
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HitPerson!?!?! How could you say something as insensitive as

"In short, I honestly believe if the govt. was to force the payment of reparations, that there would be an increase in civil unrest and racism would probably become worse because of it."

Just look at the history of reparations at solving potentially antagonistic situations permanently. I mean, it worked at the end of World War One and didn't cause any problems there.
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SkipRat    Posted 24th Mar 2006 1:27pm
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So let me get this straight. It was about black people being paid because their relatives years ago used to be slaves?

Doh. maybe im just selfish but i dont really care about much unless it effects me anymore.

So much stupid/annoying stuff going on in the world at the moment i find it best to just live in ignorance and ignore it
Yeah that is kinda stupid, but honestly if it aint doing anything to me I cant be bothered to think about it anymore.
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HitPerson   Posted 24th Mar 2006 4:32pm
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Quoting Mono
HitPerson!?!?! How could you say something as insensitive as

"In short, I honestly believe if the govt. was to force the payment of reparations, that there would be an increase in civil unrest and racism would probably become worse because of it."

Just look at the history of reparations at solving potentially antagonistic situations permanently. I mean, it worked at the end of World War One and didn't cause any problems there.


Insensitive? I don't see how that is insensitive. I simply believe that there would be a large amount of resentment towards the black community if reparations were forced.

I hate to burst your bubble, but not all white people are rich and can hardly afford to live as is. To say that they wouldn't be upset at having to hand over more of their money for the fact that they are white and there was the chance their ancestors may have had black slaves would be ridiculous.
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smotty   Posted 24th Mar 2006 5:03pm
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well first,the U.S. gov. is broke!very broke,so a rubber check would be all they could get(gota spend our money on war) but yes they do deserve something... maybe the native americans can hook'em up with some casino shares
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Molodiets   Posted 24th Mar 2006 6:18pm
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Quoting Mono

Just look at the history of reparations at solving potentially antagonistic situations permanently. I mean, it worked at the end of World War One and didn't cause any problems there.


I suppose it's sarcasms.
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HitPerson   Posted 24th Mar 2006 6:33pm
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Quoting smotty
but yes they do deserve something...


What suggestions would you have then? Who deserves to get reparations? Does P. Diddy get reparations? Because we all know how slavery ruined his life.

Who would have to pay reparations? Would it be a simple black & white issue (pun intended) or would there be some grey? Would all white people have to pay or only those who have traceable family that owned slaves? What if a family that was once rich and owned slaves is now poor and destitute, should they still have to pay?

It's not a simple subject and people should stop treating it as one.
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smotty   Posted 24th Mar 2006 7:49pm
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It's not a simple subject and people should stop treating it as one..yes ur right,and i dont think $ would do..but a simple "Im sorry" from the gov. would do alot for alot of peeps,an hey,Im part black,from waist down Doh!
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HitPerson   Posted 24th Mar 2006 8:22pm
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Quoting smotty
a simple "Im sorry" from the gov. would do alot for alot of peeps


I think there is already a sense of "white guilt" in society. I see it in the form of racial over-sensitivity (replacing "black" with "African-American") and double standards (the dispute over the dreaded "N-word" and who gets to say it without reprecussion).

So basically, I think all that's going to be done has been done; and if anything with such an impact as this was to be done, it would actually hurt "the soul of the nation."
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smotty   Posted 24th Mar 2006 9:48pm
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hurt the"soul"? of the nation,what hurts the soul is things like M.L.King's assassination while under FBI surveillance..and they "dont" know who did it??? if Im sorry did anything in would help heal the nation IMO,but as poeple all we can do is make our little worlds around us a little better every day.live ur life by building good karma.
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HitPerson   Posted 24th Mar 2006 9:57pm
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Quoting smotty
hurt the"soul"? of the nation


I was alluding to what the guy said in the documentary, when he said paying [money] reparations would " heal the sould of the nation." I personally thought this was a dumb statement and was using it in my post to be sarcastic as well as try to tie my posts together.

I wouldn't use something that corny sounding and claim it as my own.
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Mono   Posted 26th Mar 2006 6:49am
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Quoting HitPerson
Quoting Mono
HitPerson!?!?! How could you say something as insensitive as

"In short, I honestly believe if the govt. was to force the payment of reparations, that there would be an increase in civil unrest and racism would probably become worse because of it."

Just look at the history of reparations at solving potentially antagonistic situations permanently. I mean, it worked at the end of World War One and didn't cause any problems there.


Insensitive? I don't see how that is insensitive. I simply believe that there would be a large amount of resentment towards the black community if reparations were forced.

I hate to burst your bubble, but not all white people are rich and can hardly afford to live as is. To say that they wouldn't be upset at having to hand over more of their money for the fact that they are white and there was the chance their ancestors may have had black slaves would be ridiculous.



You do know what the WWI reparations did, right?
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HitPerson   Posted 27th Mar 2006 5:25am
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Yes, they put Germany in a depression and pretty much got the ball rolling on WWII. I realised it was sarcasm after I had responded, but was happy enough with what I wrote to not change it.

For someone that uses sarcasm as much as I do, it's embarassing when I don't pick up on it.
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