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sobe    Posted 20th Feb 2006 7:45pm
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BACKGROUND:
On Monday, May 9, 2005, the Denver Division of Animal Control began enforcing a city-wide ban on owning pit bull terriers, and initiated an aggressive campaign of seizing beloved family pets, and killing them against their owner’s will. This ordinance is an indiscriminant ban that demands the eradication and disposal of ALL dogs that are classified as pit bulls or pit bull mixes, even if the dog has never done anything wrong, and consistently remains confined to the owner’s property. Dog owners who refuse to surrender their pets face up to a year in jail and a $999 fine.

This ordinance also bans shelters and humane societies from “harboring” pit bulls, and even goes so far as to forbid any US resident from transporting a pit bull through Denver without a permit. The ordinance does allow for pits to be kept if residents meet certain requirements; such as increased annual registration fees, maintaining a $100,000 liability insurance policy, and keeping the dog muzzled and leashed at all times when it is off the owner’s property—but only if the resident registered the dog prior to January 1, 1990. Dogs born or transferred to Denver after that date do not qualify for the exemption.

In the first few years there were several legal battles regarding the ban. However, in November of 1991, the Colorado Supreme Court upheld the ban when it declared that the Denver ordinance did not violate the state constitution.*


I dunno if anyone else is a dog lover, but I certainly am, and I myself do not own a pitbull, but plan to soon, as my friend has one and she is like the best dog, even with him having horses, the dog is a lovable family dog to any and everyone.

Please check out this, http://gprime.net/flash.php/thepitbullproblem, and check out, http://www.petitiononline.com/savepits/petition.html and click Sign Petition if you think this is cruelty to animals as well.

This is not something forced on anyone, but just if anyone is interesting. But please actually watch the entire flash video. Then you can sign the petition. And I think that would be inhumane to kill a family dog just because of it's reputation, as they are not killing machines, their owners are the reason they fight, etc. And going to jail and paying $999 fee for not letting them kill your dog.... That is total BS!
"Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006    
goober   Posted 20th Feb 2006 9:01pm
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I agree with you sobe. This is horrible. My aunt owns a pitbull, and like you i have grown up hearing bad stories. My aunts pitbull never hurt anything in her life, she is kinder than most other dogs ive ever seen. Taking pets away from familys is very, very, very wrong. This would make the US no better than the countrys that they are fighting to improve.

I am not alowed to sign this because 1. im not a US citizen. 2. im not 18. I feel very bad that i couldnt support this cause, and hope that maby, just maby this will work.

Thanks for posting this sobe.
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sobe    Posted 20th Feb 2006 11:04pm
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This just goes to show that the expression, "Land of the Free" is quickly fading away by these laws of same sex marriages, and stupid opinionated judgements such as this and killing pitbulls, or even dogs with part pitbull in them <_<

This is a society filled with loving animals, and one of those animals is the dog. And the pitbull is in that family, and if not mistreated, then you can't expect anything to go wrong, it's these CENSORED accusations that bring the society to it's knees by saying that pitbulls are canines that are "naturally agressive & mean". This is a lie that has swept over our nation that should be put to a stop by the president himself.

And for those that see the beginning of the video where it says turn your speakers on, that is not a joke, this is NO prank of ANY kind, it is a real thing that is happenning in the world we live in today. We can only expect a dog to show love to us if we show affection in return, and if you mistreat the dog, of course it will turn on you, it is in ALL dog's nature. Such as if a human were mistreated, they would probably grow up to be violent, it is human nature, and is the same for dogs. Don't judge them by what they "can" do, but what YOU can do for them. Show a dog kindness, and they will show the same kindness in return. Dogs are man's best friend, not just a tool to win money with.

That is all I have to say for now <_<
"Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006    Modified Feb 20th, 11:06pm by sobe
SkipRat    Posted 20th Feb 2006 11:21pm
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Stupidest thing ever
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loser   Posted 21st Feb 2006 12:53am
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Quoting sobe
This is a lie that has swept over our nation that should be put to a stop by the president himself.

Isn't he the biggest liar of all?

Shame about the pooches, but it is typical of how America handles difficult situations ... "let's just kill 'em all".
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133   Posted 21st Feb 2006 1:10am
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I agree, I'm not that big of a dog fan, but if we don't treat our pets respectfully and in the proper way, of course they'll act our more instictfully than before. If we do treat them like they should, they won't act out. But pitbulls were bred and solely used for hunting, for centuries. Therefore, pitbulls are more inclined to attack, in simpler terms, they're easier to piss off.
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sobe    Posted 21st Feb 2006 2:43am
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But pitbulls were bred and solely used for hunting, for centuries. Therefore, pitbulls are more inclined to attack, in simpler terms, they're easier to piss off.


<_<
That is what the video is trying to help disprove

They are only easy to get mad when not raised properly, I know, because I basically wrestle with my friend's pitbull, and my friend will literally throw a roundhouse at the dog and she will still play along, staying her calm attitude.
"Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006    Modified Feb 21st, 02:47am by sobe



133   Posted 21st Feb 2006 5:35am
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Were my first two sentences just overlooked? I know they aren't mean dogs as soon as they're born, but I do realize I worded my statement a bit incorrectly. What I should have said was, pitbulls have a shorter amount of tolerance and are more likely to react violently than any other way but if you are good to them, they are great pets and you aren't at risk. I feel compelled to also point out that the video never said, "The history of the pitbull never happened..."
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sobe    Posted 21st Feb 2006 6:33am
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Yes, but something's past cannot haunt it forever, I think that would be an apropriate analogy.

Just because they have had a past of hunting, doesn't mean they are any different than a dog that has been used in the past for nothing more than a lovable family dog, you have to teach a dog to hunt, and they will learn. But only if you teach them. Otherwise, they are like any other dog
"Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006    
Lace    Posted 21st Feb 2006 7:25am
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But isn't it a fact that if people in Denver got hold of Pitbulls after January 1st 1990, they were breaking the law? Why did they get a Pitbull in the first place when they knew it was illegal?
"Denver's pit bull law prohibits any person from owning, possessing, keeping, exercising control over, maintaining, harboring, or selling a pit bull in the City and County of Denver. A pit bull is defined in the ordinance as any dog that is an American Pit Bull Terrier, an American Staffordshire Terrier, a Staffordshire Bull Terrier, or any dog displaying the majority of physical traits of any one or more of these breeds."
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cyrus5   Posted 21st Feb 2006 1:41pm
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They did a similar thing in the uk 10 years ago, the Dangerous Dogs Act, initial knee jerk reaction, dont think any authority actually gives a damn now, was mostly a reaction due to the press increasing coverage of dog attacks. Same thing as cancer, there has never been a 'big' increase in cancer, only in its recognition... before people just died of 'natural causes'.

http://www.dogstrust.org.uk/information/factsheets/doglaw/presentlaw/dangerousdogsact/
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The_Doc   Posted 23rd Feb 2006 11:01am
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What happened to the whole \'Man\'s Best Friend\'.

A dog is only bad if it has been raised wrong and treated wrongly. If a pitbull was raised with a loving family then the dog would be as nice as a little kitten. The goverment is just making stupid laws now.

I thought this would be a good place to say about another animal cruelty thing that is going on that you lot might know about... Bonsai kittens?

I won\'t put in the URL, but you know where to look if you want to find the site.
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cyrus5   Posted 23rd Feb 2006 6:07pm
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A dog is only bad if it has been raised wrong and treated wrongly. If a pitbull was raised with a loving family then the dog would be as nice as a little kitten.


Have you seen how violent those little kittens are? they are the only thing other than spiders that can climb up wallpaper, ** and im not talking about that nice bobbly wallpaper **, they shred your curtains, ruin your jeans, type crap into the computer, and give you fore arms that resemble a 20 year pro heroin addict! I say that we should stop buying cats and dogs and help the homeless, get a fox, or a raccoon or a coyote or something, poor things out there living on the street, getting beaten up by those fat cats and vicious kittens...

Still these are a good solution for frustrated pets...



As for the bonsai kittens, thats funny, and a hoax I hope... :S though certain tribes around the world practice head shaping which involves binding a babys head and causing it to become elongated, talk about attack of the cone heads
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SkipRat    Posted 23rd Feb 2006 9:00pm
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hahaha sorry i just read that site. The doc is a retard if he thinks thats real.
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The_Doc   Posted 24th Feb 2006 10:54am
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Well i only heard about this from an e-mail that i recieved about 2 days ago. It talks about the site and thier is a petition on the e-mail that has over 900 signatures from people all over the globe signing it.

So i thought it was real, but i could say the same for MAVAV, but that turned out to be fake.
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SkipRat    Posted 24th Feb 2006 12:42pm
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Have you actually seen the pics though doc. Theres pictures of them putting kittens in jars, and babys.

If all you have seen is a email then fair enough
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