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| goober |
  Posted 17th Jan 2006 5:34am |  |
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i didnt say i glitched... i said i know how.
i do if someone wants me to... but not if they dont. |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 17th Jan 2006 5:40am | |
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I didn't mean that you were a cheater beacause you know how to do it.
But I don't like it when people mention things like that in the Forums
| Quoting goober | depends on what kind of mods your talking about 
and, rocket glitching is fairly easy anyway, but again i aint telling!  |
and plz keep your tongue in your mouth when saying things like that. Its nothing that anyone can be proud of. This way people keep on asking until they know it. I hope you know what I mean.
And I hope I don't sound too negative, didn't want to say it in this way  Will some smileys help?
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| weslem27 |
Posted 18th Jan 2006 4:54am |
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Woah hang on a minute!
1st i wanted to know what was going on in some of the servers i was playing on - found that out
2nd i wanted to know what 'client-side' meant - found that out
3rd i wanted to find out hot to make client side weapon mods because i wanted to re-model some of the guns in RF from UT2003 - sort of found that out (thanx to REDFROG)
4th i am not a cheater! i am just knew to this whole 'modding' thing and just needed some answers to a few questions.
btw. Thanyou everyone for all your help! |
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Beatonator  |
Posted 18th Jan 2006 9:37am |
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Unfortunatly weslem, as you may know RF has alot of Cheatrs which are also called Modders due to them using Cheat Mods. Then when a topic is brought up its sometimes hard to distinguish what they are after, and that is why alot are defensive.
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 18th Jan 2006 11:41am | |
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I would normally help someone no worries if i knew that their intentions were good, you are new here so i stayed on the defensive a bit, nothing personal but i would hate to aid a possible cheat modder. |
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| weslem27 |
Posted 25th Jan 2006 1:33pm |
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Yeah. OK. i can c what you are getting at. thanks 4 all the help and advice! |
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| FuryThor |
Posted 25th Jan 2006 5:52pm |
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Yeah well I have seen those cheat modders and they most ofter write their mods by them self.
Anyway I can also provide help to do mods but not anything cheat likes, only fair ones. That just because there is enough of cheat modders in RF already and most servers run 1.20 patch which does not prevent cheat mods. |
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| goober |
Posted 25th Jan 2006 6:27pm | |
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writing any mod (including cheat mods) is very easy. but, it can be very frustraiting getting it exactally how you want it  |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 25th Jan 2006 10:58pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | writing any mod (including cheat mods) is very easy. but, it can be very frustraiting getting it exactally how you want it |
Yeah, I found out that Red Faction modding is nothing else than changing the properties of the game. Doing some work on the clutter or entity table is a little different, but it's still changing and using arlready existing properties and codes. Everything is very limitated and you've got to think about tricks to make the things go as you wanted.
It's very different in other games, and yet very hard.
UT04 has no reloadable weapons...man that's very difficult to do. There is no reference in the game so you've got to code it yourself, not like in RF - which is much more mod friendly . |
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| goober |
Posted 25th Jan 2006 11:18pm | |
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is that why your UT04 models had homemade reload animations? |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 25th Jan 2006 11:32pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | is that why your UT04 models had homemade reload animations? |
Yeah UT04 has no reloads at all. When the Rocket Launcher was half done I noticed that I forgot to create a magazine bone that can be used for reloads. I never thought of the reload animation. lol  (The UT rocket launcher has a magazine on the right side but I didn't animate it)
The Assault Rifle has a real magazine (however, you cant see it, its out of the screen). I think it looks much better when a hand holds and reloads it
"homemade"? All my animations are "homemade"
I've converted the Manga for UT2004 use. Even with bones for fingers and the magazine. I thought I would figure out how to code (or at least copy n paste some code) that reload script someday, but I can't do it. It is cool, you can make weapons that can be used in your custom level, only there and nothing else so there's no mod or mutator required. (like I've done with the health pack etc in DM02) |
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| mrmitchell |
Posted 26th Jan 2006 5:46am |
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| Quote | | In normal servers if someone is shooting faster than normal it means they have client side mods or are glitching. |
Warning: If someone is shooting precision or pistol really fast, they're not cheating, you just suck.
Anything else can be an accurate way to tell someone is modding, but if I had a nickel for every time someone cried "moddarszs!!11" just because they got fragged, I could buy a coke!
For most of the time I think recently RF has matured past stupid modders, they have definitely become the exception instead of the rule. Maybe it's just because I stick to established servers and those running custom levels. |
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| smotty |
Posted 28th Jan 2006 1:48am |
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"Warning: If someone is shooting precision or pistol really fast, they're not cheating, you just suck."..well I dont know bout that,more often than not its a rapid fire mod and IT sux! |
Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell
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Posted 28th Jan 2006 5:10am | |
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| darkman042 |
Posted 21st Feb 2006 2:43am |
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| Quoting weslem27 | Hey, i have been playing Red Faction online and a couple of the servers have me really confused. 
One server i went on the rail driver have a HUGE clip like: 99 70 or something and it reloaded superfast!! then the sub machine gun's clip was all faded out and was larger than normal. |
This was a server side mod. perfectly "legal" in the way that everyone is on the same level playing field.
| Quoting weslem27 | | another server i went on two players were able to get the rocket launches firing heaps faster like 6 rockerts per second instead of 1 and the rail driver launched about 5 slugs instead of 1 and was extremely fast to reload, yet when i got the guns it didn't work for me?? |
This was a "normal" sever with modders (cheaters? ) playing client side mods.. as in ONLY THEY have the advantages of the mod.
| Quoting weslem27 | The question i would like to ask is HOW DO THEY DO THIS?? It's like using a mod but i don't think they are because when u try 2 use a mod on multiplayer servers it says you cannot join because the server isn't running the mod you have on!!??
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You get that message because you were trying to use a "legal" mod where the server would have had to have been running the same mod. And to answer "HOW DO THEY DO THIS??" ---DON'T!!!! People who just want to have a nice relaxing evening of blowing s**t up don't need you ruining their game for them. 99% of the time that a modder joins a server, if nobody has rcon to kick them, the server empties out within minutes! DON'T! ..don't. At the very least.. read the forum rules and realize that this forum is the WRONG PLACE to ask for help with cheating! Thank you.  |
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