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| xXLoGaNXx |
  Posted 5th Dec 2005 10:09pm |  |
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MP2's end credits...
"Max Payne's journey into the night will continue..."
Says nothing of who's gonna do it, or when...
so i'm thinking its gonna be Sub-Par if Remedy doesnt do it and therefore i'm just going to have to settle with 2 and call it a series...
(instead of "Sub-Par" i originally said "C_R_A_P" but it censored that word for some reason...and i didnt want to look like some dork who has to convince himself he's tough by swearing on the internet...)
...wait...is that even a bad word??? does it censor piss?
...guess not...  weird... |
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| daudnatania |
Posted 6th Dec 2005 8:08pm |
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hmmm... perfection? I think a perfection is already cleared in Hall of Mirror's video clip. The only perfection that I believe we all need is when the realization of this mod. Like I've said earlier. I've tried to look for any progress or improvement about Hall of Mirror. The result is .... I don't find any. I think it is a nice thing for anyone to give me a clue about this hall of mirrors. A "back off" word is just don't enough. Give me a clue about what progress that they have made, then I will back off and personally state an apology in this thread. I'm not a irrasional man. I believe it is more irrasional to defend something that might have been gone ever since. Let us all face it. People need to know what progress have been made in Hall of Mirrors. Not just a promise 95% or even 99.9999999%. Look at http://www.totalbf2.com/ (Battlefield 2 modification) for example. They give more screenshots each day to show the fans about the MOD progress. Now anyone please tell me something. Is there any NEW screenshot about Hall of Mirrors? I don't think so... |
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| Cptchaos |
Posted 6th Dec 2005 8:14pm |
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| Quoting daudnatania | | hmmm... perfection? I think a perfection is already cleared in Hall of Mirror's video clip. The only perfection that I believe we all need is when the realization of this mod. Like I've said earlier. I've tried to look for any progress or improvement about Hall of Mirror. The result is .... I don't find any. I think it is a nice thing for anyone to give me a clue about this hall of mirrors. A "back off" word is just don't enough. Give me a clue about what progress that they have made, then I will back off and personally state an apology in this thread. I'm not a irrasional man. I believe it is more irrasional to defend something that might have been gone ever since. Let us all face it. People need to know what progress have been made in Hall of Mirrors. Not just a promise 95% or even 99.9999999%. Look at http://www.totalbf2.com/ (Battlefield 2 modification) for example. They give more screenshots each day to show the fans about the MOD progress. Now anyone please tell me something. Is there any NEW screenshot about Hall of Mirrors? I don't think so... |
Keeping it secret brings up the hype. With more hype you get more downloads and more publicity. The more publicity you get the more popular you are, which could very well get you a job in the video games industry if that is what they are looking for(I'm not saying it is). Plus you get bragging rights for making the most hyped/downloaded mod on the net for MP2. |
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| fantact |
Posted 6th Dec 2005 10:26pm |
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Max Payne 3.... I think they will do the obvious and make it a prequel to the first game.
What i would like too see is realistic damage, Ragdolls are so dull these days, its supposed to be random and realistic and all that, but it looks fake at times, and it doesnt feel right, i wanna see some limping, or lying on the floor in pain if i shoot anyone in the leg, maybe some splintered bone, and Soldier Of Fortune 2 headshots, brainmatter and all that.
think of it, u use a sniper on a enemy and the bullet rips through the guys head and busts is head open.
To add some more realism, noone flies 3 meters from a gunshot, maybe from a 50 cal sniper, but not from a shotgun og beretta. |
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| yourgrandma |
Posted 7th Dec 2005 12:00am |
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.. that wouldnt happen niether becuase a sniper bullet goes right through you.. |
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| Violent-Games |
Posted 7th Dec 2005 11:58pm |
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| Quoting daudnatania | | hmmm... perfection? I think a perfection is already cleared in Hall of Mirror's video clip. The only perfection that I believe we all need is when the realization of this mod. Like I've said earlier. I've tried to look for any progress or improvement about Hall of Mirror. The result is .... I don't find any. I think it is a nice thing for anyone to give me a clue about this hall of mirrors. A "back off" word is just don't enough. Give me a clue about what progress that they have made, then I will back off and personally state an apology in this thread. I'm not a irrasional man. I believe it is more irrasional to defend something that might have been gone ever since. Let us all face it. People need to know what progress have been made in Hall of Mirrors. Not just a promise 95% or even 99.9999999%. Look at http://www.totalbf2.com/ (Battlefield 2 modification) for example. They give more screenshots each day to show the fans about the MOD progress. Now anyone please tell me something. Is there any NEW screenshot about Hall of Mirrors? I don't think so... |
The reason you haven't found any new progress about the mod is because you're not a part of their team. I haven't heard anything either about the mod except what is posted here or on some other forum. And just because a movie clip was released and you thought that the mod was already perfect enough from viewing it, you're opinion doesn't matter on that subject. You are not making the mod. You aren't doing anything to help whatsoever. That's why you don't know anything about it and that's why the mod hasn't been released yet. Because the team doesn't feel that it's perfect. Just because you do doesn't mean they have to release the mod or any other info about it. If you want more info then you should have helped them out from the beginning of their mod and you should have joined their team. And do you really think that they would release any more info about the mod then they already have? I mean we practically know everything about it already. What more do you want to know?
And I was told by a moderator at the 3DRealms forum that Max payne 3 will be released but it will not be developed by Remedy. And I'm glad too, because they didn't do anything new or inventive with Max Payne 2. That's why it's considered one of the most overhyped games of it's year that let everybody down. I'm glad to see Remedy go. I don't need their laziness when it comes to making one of my favorite games of all time. If they had stepped up their game and had made Max Payne 2 rely on some new gameplay enhancements then it's hype from it's predecessor to make sales, then MP2 would have blown us all away.
Down with Remedy!!!!
Pain animations and more realistic damage animations would help out. And the ragdoll physics could also use some tweaking. I've mangaed to get the ragdolls to look hyper realistic in my upcoming mod but it would be nice to be able to dismember ragdolls and hear their bones breaking when they are in a bad position or when they fall from way up high.
You can adjust the push that bullets make on bodies with a simple script text change. Or you can lower the weight of ragdoll bones to keep them from flying so far after being shot. That's simple stuff. But yes these changes are needed in Max Payne 3 aswell.
And yes sniper bullets will throw you backwards. Espeically 50 calibur sniper rounds. Just because they exit doesn't mean they don't push. My friend was in the Marines and he told me everything he knows about ballistics and such. He manned a McMillan 50cal. Anti-Tank Sniper Rifle and he blew many many people away with decapitations and torso shots that sent them and sometimes their body parts flying through the air. Sometimes he made them do cartwheels and backflips leaving huge gaping exit wounds on their bodies. Good stuff...
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| sudniok |
Posted 13th Dec 2005 7:23am |
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Well, max payne 2 left off with all the main characters, vinnie gognittie is dead, vladimir is dead, mona sax died. The only person that I studied that lived was Jim Bravora. Max said that he was to stubborn to die so he had to give him more time while he was being operated on. Who know's what maxx payne 3 may be in the future, but something tells me it won't be as good as the first or second. |
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| MAXPAYNE4664 |
Posted 13th Dec 2005 9:53am | |
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Same...I dont think it will be as good as Max Payne 1 or 2. It won't have Remedy's Sam Lake as the script writer...  |
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| Cptchaos |
Posted 14th Dec 2005 8:26pm |
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| Quoting sudniok | | Well, max payne 2 left off with all the main characters, vinnie gognittie is dead, vladimir is dead, mona sax died. The only person that I studied that lived was Jim Bravora. Max said that he was to stubborn to die so he had to give him more time while he was being operated on. Who know's what maxx payne 3 may be in the future, but something tells me it won't be as good as the first or second. |
You obviously didnt pay any attention to the game. Max Survives and so Does Mona. But yes with all of the villians gone there is no one left and I highly doubt anyone could come up with someone new that would keep the audience pleased. The only way to do anything possibly good would to do what was stated earlier, and make a prequel. |
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| lance4 |
Posted 14th Dec 2005 11:44pm |
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No one can really say if mona is dead or not, because you have 2 endings. Another thing i'm sure of is that Max Payne 3 won't be a prequel. I'm sure there is someone smart who finds a story after this one. And if, of what should they make a game of before max his live was ruined? That he was a cop who catched thieves?  |
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| Violent-Games |
Posted 15th Dec 2005 7:19pm |
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Just because Max's enemies that we know of are dead does not mean that he no longer has enemies. I could think up a million different enemies that could pop up in the next MP. Easily.
And Mona does survive if you play the game on the hardest difficulty. Only those who were good enough to beat the game on hard saw this.
And who cares if the script writer for Sam Lake isn't working on MP3? You don't even know if Alan Wake will be a good game or not. For all that we know it could be a huge flop. All I've seen about the game had to do with it's new graphics engine. I haven't seen any new gameplay enhancements or anything else whatsoever. MP3 needs to have many new gameplay mechanics and not just some intricate script. You don't play the script, you play the game. I know scripts are important, but they're not really needed if the game is pure fun. Look at Doom.
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| xXLoGaNXx |
Posted 15th Dec 2005 7:26pm | |
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ok...i know you're not stupid...
I'm not saying you are...
but Sam Lake IS the writer of both Max Payne's and of the new Remedy Game, entitled "ALAN WAKE"...
Sam Lake is the guy who created Max Payne, and served as the character model in the first MP for both the in-game model, and the Graphic Novels...
i just had to clarify this. |
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| Violent-Games |
Posted 15th Dec 2005 7:41pm |
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I know that, I got my words mixed up. Thanks for clarifying. I'll fix my last post.
But really who needs Sam Lake. It's not like he took the MP2 story to new heights. MP3 needs new gameplay features and mechanics. An excellent story would be nice, but it's not really needed. I want to have fun like I did in the first MP. I want to experience something new and inovative. I think every MP fan feels the same. MP2 was a great game but it was basically MP repolished and enhanced a bit. It should have been completely redone and reinvented kind of like Half-Life 2 was to Half-Life 1. It had some of the same characters, but it was bigger, smarter, and far more superior. I hope this will happen in MP3. I hope MP3 blows away MP2.
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| Ghast |
Posted 15th Dec 2005 8:16pm |
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| Quoting Violent-Games | Just because Max's enemies that we know of are dead does not mean that he no longer has enemies. I could think up a million different enemies that could pop up in the next MP. Easily.
And Mona does survive if you play the game on the hardest difficulty. Only those who were good enough to beat the game on hard saw this.
And who cares if the script writer for Sam Lake isn't working on MP3? You don't even know if Alan Wake will be a good game or not. For all that we know it could be a huge flop. All I've seen about the game had to do with it's new graphics engine. I haven't seen any new gameplay enhancements or anything else whatsoever. MP3 needs to have many new gameplay mechanics and not just some intricate script. You don't play the script, you play the game. I know scripts are important, but they're not really needed if the game is pure fun. Look at Doom.
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Oh boy more philosophy talk! *lol* I think there is something really wrong with Mr & Mrs Smith or Fun with CENSORED & Jane.
MP (MP1) was about criminal government & organized crime (Italian & Russian Mafia) pushing drugs!
Max as revenger killed them. It was NOT about the fun of being a criminal!
FOMP (MP2) IS about the fun of being a criminal.
Rockstar seems to have an aggenda to publish games about the fun of being a criminal!
In FOMP Max & Mona are criminals - the Mafia (both Italian & Russian) are businessman who are just trying to eliminate the competition. (Just like Take2?)
BOMP (MP3) will be more of the same. Alan Wake has a chance to be original! BOMP doesn't IMHO! |
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| KaneOfDoom |
Posted 15th Dec 2005 8:59pm |
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Well erm heres a clue REMEDY AINT MAKING MAX PAYNE 3... its been cancld |
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