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  Posted 24th Nov 2005 1:46pm |  |
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This is the reason why I never recommend NAV to anyone.
Its likely you're infected by a virus. Typical behaviour of viruses is to try and disable any AV program on the target machine.
If you dont keep your AV up to date a new virus can slip in, disable or otherwise incapacitate your AV's ability to detect/remove the virus and bobs your mothers uncle your PC is format fodder.
NAV is completely pathetic at detecting anything other than what its got definitions for.
You might not want to format but this may just be the tip of the iceberg. If your machine is infected you have 3 options...
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Dont do anything.
(Note if you choose this option please donate your computer to someone who actually deserves to have one... you dont.)
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Attempt to remove it.
Some of the time this works. Most of the time it half way works or fails miserably. Generally the worse the infection the more likely you are to suffer the latter.
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Format.
The only way to be sure of having a fully functional uncompromised computer. Make the decision to get a PROPER firewall and anti-virus solution BEFORE getting on the net for the first time if possible, otherwise make it the VERY FIRST thing you do when connecting to the net for the VERY FIRST time with the newly formatted machine.
The fact that 99% of todays computers ship with CD burning drives means loosing data is no longer a problem. Burn stuff you want to keep to disk. Ensure that before you use any of the stuff after your format that you perform a FULL virus scan of the disk contents with an up-to-date AV.
I usually do option 3 when sorting family/friends out. Option 1 means they whine their computer still isn't working whilst Option 2 generally gives peace and quiet only for a few days before the machine is infested again. |
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sobe  |
Posted 24th Nov 2005 7:40pm |
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Disk and/or spare or external hard drives. Or you can use a USB drive.
And SkipRat, I am not saying your retarded, it was being used as a metaphor in that sentence. |
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| LordSeafood |
Posted 24th Nov 2005 9:11pm | |
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I would also suggest always making an image of a freshly installed system and always have a partitioned HDD (never understood why people have a 200GB C:\ Drive) then you only put OS and programs on C:\ and once you have all the main programs you use make another image. Now you should install all games and micellaneous(?) things to other partitions so when you restore an image you dont lose all your games and things ... also move "My Documents" to another partition aswell so you dont have to worry about backing it up if something like this goes wrong |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 25th Nov 2005 12:06am | |
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yay got norton installed again.  it finally decided to let me install. but before I re installed it I did a virus scan using the tool on symantec home page and all it found was some spyware.. no viruses...
so IDK why everything was being retarded...  |
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| sobe |
Posted 25th Nov 2005 12:52am |
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Because Norton just sucks.... lol
Switch to McAfee or something. McAfee has always worked for me. And it has detected things that AVG, Norton, Avast!, and most other anti-virus programs out there could not find. |
| "Apparently, Plaintiff believes that he could sue an egg company for fraud for labeling a carton of 12 eggs a dozen, because some bakers would view a dozen as including 13 items." - Western Digital 2006 |
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| Garner |
Posted 25th Nov 2005 8:58am | |
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| Quoting DVL_IAC | yay got norton installed again. it finally decided to let me install. but before I re installed it I did a virus scan using the tool on symantec home page and all it found was some spyware.. no viruses...
so IDK why everything was being retarded... |
Scan it with another AV. Unless you've missed the repeated comments on the abilities of NAV you'll know that its not the best AV in the world... it may well have missed something. |
"Science is this extraordinary transnational, transcultural, trans-everything language which is the only way to discover Truth and its regrettable that billions are still stuck in the Middle Ages believing the crap propagated by Popes and priests..."
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 25th Nov 2005 4:07pm | |
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is there any other AV sites with an online scanner so I don't have to d/l AV software or buy AV software just to see if it picks up anything different...? |
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| DVL_IAC |
Posted 26th Nov 2005 10:38pm | |
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hmm just ran it and it didn't find any viruses either. |
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| Ugly Donkey |
Posted 27th Nov 2005 12:44am |
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virus shake down
that link is a thread on majorgeeks, it is a nice complation procedure of cleaning ur computer, imo it is second only 2 reformating.
i use nav as well, but i have about 6 other standalone av programs that are always on standby and or running to make sure i dont get any CENSORED on my computer. |
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| Bjossi |
Posted 27th Nov 2005 4:43pm |
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I know a thing that could work to get rid of Norton, but it can cause system failure since virus programs are pretty bound into the OS if I´m not mistaken.
Let´s say your Norton is installed in C:\NortonAV.
Go to Task Manager and close explorer.exe process, then keep the Task Manager running, click New Task and type cmd.
In there type: DEL C:\NortonAV, then it should delete all the contents of the folder. (not the NortonAV folder itself, I don´t know why though)
It´s likely that folder will be locked, simply installing something into that folder, a simple program, then you should be able to delete it.
Now, get rid of registry keys and system32 files and Norton should be gone I think. |
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