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| Red Faction : [RED] Editing : Another bug, er... limitation, GLASS |
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| topspins |
  Posted 22nd Sep 2005 6:16am |
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And this is supposed to be a professional program? *cough. *cough.. Only 4-sided Square face brushes is accepted by Red as breakable glass, everything else I try seems to have an unbreakable flag set on it. So how do we smash an 8-sided arch window?
A big 4-sided face brush the same size and height as the arch window frame... If the Arch frame is set in the wall just shove a giant square brush inside the arch, no need for carve really, but if it smashes and no glass comes out but dissapears instead, don't blame me, this is the shoddy way of doing things.. You get some good blinds effects with glass too if you use cylinder texture wrap..
But if the arch frame is stand alone (no walls). Then you have two options. The proper one is using carve or if you can't be bothered carving the brush out to the shape of the arch before turning it to glass, then the lazy way is just to smack two or three small little squares in each corner of the arch and shove a big square for the bottom and line them up and turn to glass. LOL but upon closeup the shocking window job is going to be seen and noticed when someone tests your map and only one half of the window breaks and leaves one half of it left 
I've never heard of glass that allows weapons to fly straight through it unless it is smashable glass. |
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| Predalienator |
Posted 22nd Sep 2005 8:59am |
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Did you put the detail brush properties to 100?I made a cylinder breakable glass cage for guards uhh i mean miners to be tortured.And a breakable glass cage that acts as a wrestling match for guards  |
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| FuryThor |
Posted 22nd Sep 2005 3:02pm |
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Aaw non 4 sided breakable glass is possible as I saw something like 32 sided (round) glass in hive mod map. |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 22nd Sep 2005 3:10pm |
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| Quoting FuryThor | | Aaw non 4 sided breakable glass is possible as I saw something like 32 sided (round) glass in hive mod map. |
Firstly the maximum number of sides is 24, secondly did the glass shatter into lots of pieces or simply disappear?  My guess is that it just disappeared  |
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| ark_gamer |
Posted 22nd Sep 2005 5:50pm |
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I've never tried to do anything other that 4 sided face brushes with windows. The only way I can think of is to make a single big face and stick it in there, but I don't know what to do with a freestanding arch. |
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| goober |
Posted 22nd Sep 2005 6:32pm |  |
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umm you could make the arch out of aot of detail brushes then fuse them? |
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| mad_ferrit |
Posted 22nd Sep 2005 9:30pm |
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| Quoting ark_gamer | | I've never tried to do anything other that 4 sided face brushes with windows. The only way I can think of is to make a single big face and stick it in there, but I don't know what to do with a freestanding arch. |
I think you're gonna have to go with unbreakable glass then mate  |
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| topspins |
Posted 23rd Sep 2005 12:00am |
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| Quoting mad_ferrit | | Quoting FuryThor | | Aaw non 4 sided breakable glass is possible as I saw something like 32 sided (round) glass in hive mod map. |
Firstly the maximum number of sides is 24, secondly did the glass shatter into lots of pieces or simply disappear? My guess is that it just disappeared |
That's STRANGE...Because my version of the Red editor (ver 1.00) will not allow me to have more than 16 sides for a face brush. I cannot go up any higher. |
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NoClanFrank  |
Posted 23rd Sep 2005 3:57am | |
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| Quoting topspins | | That's STRANGE...Because my version of the Red editor (ver 1.00) will not allow me to have more than 16 sides for a face brush. I cannot go up any higher. |
May I suggest something really really dumb? Why haven't you upgraded to 1.20v?
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| goober |
Posted 23rd Sep 2005 6:52pm | |
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| Quoting topspins | | Quoting mad_ferrit | | Quoting FuryThor | | Aaw non 4 sided breakable glass is possible as I saw something like 32 sided (round) glass in hive mod map. |
Firstly the maximum number of sides is 24, secondly did the glass shatter into lots of pieces or simply disappear? My guess is that it just disappeared |
That's STRANGE...Because my version of the Red editor (ver 1.00) will not allow me to have more than 16 sides for a face brush. I cannot go up any higher. |
ummm he is talking about a cylinder brush  glass doesnt always here to be a face  i cant remember the last time i made a face detail brush |
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| NoClanFrank |
Posted 23rd Sep 2005 9:01pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | Glass doesnt always here to be a face. |
It does if you want the glass to shatter when broken. If you use a regular brush, it will just disappear. |
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| RED-FROG |
Posted 23rd Sep 2005 11:34pm | |
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You can use the explode events to break "connected" planes at the same time as u hit the 1st plane. Trigger Door ->Weapons only
So they all break simultaneousily and there will be no glass plane flying in the air after it.
btw. isn't a plane/sheet 2 sided? or am I wrong 
plane: 4 verticies, 4 edges and 2 sides ->4 faces |
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| goober |
Posted 24th Sep 2005 12:51am | |
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acually ive used alot of 0.01 brushes as glass and they all shattar   |
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| topspins |
Posted 24th Sep 2005 12:35pm |
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SOMETIMES, yes, but not always... Usually the glass just dissapears when you hit it when using normal brushes instead of using the face brush, OR.. You only see a tiny line of glass shattering down the bottom and not the whole thing. |
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| NoClanFrank |
Posted 24th Sep 2005 2:42pm | |
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| Quoting goober | | actually I've used a lot of 0.01 brushes as glass and they all shatter |
You call that shatter?
I'll give you shatter.
When you use a regular brush they will look like they shatter but if you compare it to when you use a face brush it looks weak. Just using a regular brush for breakable glass will help with lag on a map because there won't be that many pieces of broken glass that will(if any) that will remain on the ground.
I mean look at the default map lobby, shot out those windows on top with a full server and a low end video card. You will see what type of lag I am talking about. Also when you use a regular brush, I don't remember hearing the sound of walking on top of broken glass, which adds to the effect that there was glass there.  |
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| Predalienator |
Posted 24th Sep 2005 2:45pm |
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