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  Posted 8th Sep 2005 11:49pm |
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Ok, I have never had this issue before. But the car I am driving temproraliy is a 97' Plymouth Breeze, Manual. The problem I am having with it is when I am in lower gears such as 1, 2 , and 3 while slowing down the engine will cut off. As this is very dangerous going to and from school I am looking to find out what the issue is before I send it to an authorized dealer. Could my engine be overheating? After the car was parked and turned off on my carport, I popped the hood and noticed a bubbling sound coming from the Engine Coolant container! I am starting to think it has something to do with the radiator! Could someone please help me with this?! |
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| General_187 |
Posted 9th Sep 2005 2:39am |
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Well, If you lived in Washington State.. I could have you just drive over and take a look at it for you.. but.. since you are not.. there are numerous possibilities....
* Check your coolant overflow bottle and make sure it's up to the correct lines. (cold min/max or hot min/max)
* It's possible that your thermostat has gone out... Does your temp gauge in your car work?
* Also... Do you know how to drive a manual correctly? You might be letting the engine RPM's get too low and killing it.. just not noticing? 
* Is there a "check engine" or "service engine soon" light on?
* Have you recently had a new radiator put in? Possible that they did not burb the air from the coolant system...
* Your cap on your radiator could be bad.. but, that usually makes a whole bunch of steam come out of your top of your radiator.. do you have steam coming out? Are you driving your car a long ways to school? like.. more than 5-10 minutes?
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| Pickles |
Posted 9th Sep 2005 4:37am |
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Check the overflow container for fluid. Wait for engine to cool, and check for fluid in radiator. Verify the fluid is of a green color... if it's brown, you got problems. Check all your hoses for leaks. Does your car have a engine temperature gauge? If so, watch it closely, as a thermostat could be going out. |
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| smotty |
Posted 9th Sep 2005 5:29am |
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most Plymouth's dodge, christler..ya dont haveta hook up..turn tha key to acc. count tha # of times tha eng. light blinks..and look that up in manual...but yes when they get hot they start ta die,and knock..if ya dont know how ta work on cars..find a freind who dose..or bend over and write a check!  |
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| sobe |
Posted 9th Sep 2005 9:46pm |
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I know how to work with cars. I had a Nissan 240SX before my cousin sold it! lol, He was only suppose to redo the interior!
And I drive manuals better than automatics 
I normally shift gears within the 4,000RPM-5,000RPM range. And I have the clutch in when shifting  Sooooo, it only does it when I shift down, and if you shift down the RPMs jump higher, not lower.......
Keep in mind, it has NOT started doing this until a few days ago. So before a few days ago, it was working perfect and no problems....... So it is stable, I haven't checked the liquid inside the radiator yet, and the Check Engine light has ALWAYS been on... It is a problem my uncle never fixed. I have had the car checked over about that light before, and the mechanic said that the wiring is wired wrong, but that wire just leads to that light. That has nothing to do with the engine problem........
I'm going to drain the oil, replace coolant, and check radiator today then, and then I will see what happens.
General_187, I can tell you that I can drive a manual damn well, on hills as well. But, getting to and from school my sister rides with me and I would rather not have it die on me while turning a turn with a car coming..........
And about the engine thermostat...... Where would I look for the stupid thing on a Plymouth?! My 240SX had a thermostat when you opened the hood on the engine, and one next to the stereo...... |
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| smotty |
Posted 9th Sep 2005 10:39pm |
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a thermostat is inside tha neck where the upper radiater hose conects to the motor.. |
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| sobe |
Posted 9th Sep 2005 11:59pm |
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I just took a look, the little CENSORED is wedged between the transmission and radiator! lol
Once I can get to it I will inform you here. |
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| smotty |
Posted 10th Sep 2005 3:32am |
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yes front wheel drive..all cramed in to a little space..did you check to see if ur cooling fan is working..let it get good n warm..bout 190..and see if its come'n on..with a/c off...if a/c is on it should always run!electric fans r good,but.. if they go out ...arrrg!..my dads a machanic,so I kinda grew up in his shop |
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| sobe |
Posted 10th Sep 2005 4:50pm |
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Don't mind my stupidness... I hate mornings! lol
But it's the little round gasket that is clogged with oil..........
I can't think of it right now, get me at night and such and I can name it  |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 10th Sep 2005 11:32pm |  |
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| Quoting smotty | | yes front wheel drive..all cramed in to a little space..did you check to see if ur cooling fan is working..let it get good n warm..bout 190..and see if its come'n on..with a/c off...if a/c is on it should always run!electric fans r good,but.. if they go out ...arrrg!..my dads a machanic,so I kinda grew up in his shop |
That not what i would say it is ... my reasoning ... I own a 96 plymouth neon which shares a lot of the same parts mostly engine, radiator and electrical parts ... my car did the same thing. (which means its probably a shared part) the faster you went the more it cooled down ... cause you dont need your fans when youre going 90  ... anyways if you stop and go, it overheats  .
My mechanical/electrical intuition says that your radiator capacitor module thingy has a bad connection (i forget its technical name), anyways, what it does is change the elecrical current to a different frequency so when you radiator kicks in it does not give white noise over your radio, anyways, i traced the problem to that in about 30 min (might take you longer, im a electrical genuis ) then i found the connector that was melted/screwed up (the power in connector) and i rigged up a new connector system that still used the old module. (you might have to replace it but if you bypass it be warned that your radio WILL SOUND LIKE CRAP). But im about 75-85% sure that is it  .
Seriously, im that sure.
(i know my car like the back of my hand, and the cars related to it  )
Edit: if you want more info Post a message asking for it ... ill try and get pics of what it looks like and where its located. |
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| sobe |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 1:36am |
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I don't think that's it 5 mechanics told me the same thing! lol It's the oil gasket.... As they called it...
I went and took it to a mechanic half a mile down the road, oil is clogging up the little gasket, he is ordering one for me which will be ready on Monday  Anyway, that gasket and a few hoses connecting to it will be replaced just to be sure.
Anyway, if that does not solve my problem, those mechanics WILL be dealt with! Also, I will give your idea a go |
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Posted 11th Sep 2005 2:19am | |
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sobe the water bubbling is a good indication that the thermostat isn't working properly or that your water pump has gone bad. It's not allowing the radiator fluid/water to flow through the engine, you know to cool it off. 
The other thing I can think of is if you have an electric radiator fan then you might want to check to make sure it turns on and turns on at the right temperature, then make sure it stays on. Which could either be the temperature switch or the fan itself. I know that was the problem on my sister's Dodge. When she took it to the shop, she told them what I had told her was wrong but the mechanic said he still needed to check it out, just to be sure. After checking it, it was determine that I was right and the electric fans had gone out. I mean you can tell, they weren't turning on and one of them was frozen in place. 
I might add, you shouldn't see any oil with your water, if you do then either your head gaskets are worn out or you might have a cracked engine head.
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 3:34am | |
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sobe ... have you witnessed the fans turn on at all while having this problem?
if so, i am wrong.
if you have not try bypassing the fan relay using a peice of wire ... if you know how. it will cost you nothing just to try and it eliminates a lot of possiblitys.
i feel very strongly that i am right because i had this happen to me before and mopar uses alot of the same parts for both Breeze and Neon.  |
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| sobe |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 3:46am |
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As I currently do not have the vehicle, as it is in shop right now, I will take a look on that once I get it back. No, I have NOT witnessed the fans on..... Just start up car, put in Neutral, and pull up handbrake.... And I should be able to see the fans rotating, correct? |
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| General_187 |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 3:53am |
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Nope, Most of them are temperature sensitive... which also your ECT sensor could be out, It relays the temperature of your coolant to your PCM of your car (computer) and from there they control the fans. You should have to wait until it gets to normal operating temperature.. drive it around for 10-15 minutes.  |
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| Assaultman67 |
Posted 11th Sep 2005 4:16am | |
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true. they come on at a certain temp ... but by bypassing the relay, you can test the fans without starting the car. if that works then turn the car on and let it heat up by itself ... if they still come on then its definitely a radiator cooling problem. |
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